Timing play or not?

[tjones1]

Originally Posted by ozzy6900

The appeal on the check swing is the 2nd out and R1 thrown out at 3rd is the 3rd out. Score the run.

Also, the PU should not wait for an appeal with an "anything & 2" count. He should immediately go for the appeal. The advanced mechanic would be the BU would cocme up with the appeal without a request from the PU.

I thought this was the mechanic if the BR could possibly advance.

[ozzy6900]

Originally Posted by tjones1

I thought this was the mechanic if the BR could possibly advance.

Unfortunately, not all associations work as per the MLBUM. Some still operate where the BU is silent until the PU makes the appeal.

[Illini_Ref]

I think that Tjones is saying that the MLBUM is not appropriate here since the BR cannot advance by rule since first base is occupied.

Also, with runners stealing and plays being made on them an immediate appeal really isn't possible. In the OC the appeal would come after playing action. The question remains, is it the second or third out? Common sense says that it would be the second, but this is rules, common sense may not apply.

I would be interested in knowing if there is a rule, case, or manual reference for this in any rule set.