Infield fly umpire screwup

[mbyron]

Originally Posted by bob jenkins

You could protest but what's the likley outcome (given that the runner was "halfway to second") if the umpire didnt' screw up? The runner is out on a tag. And, unless the runner was already starting to retreat while R3 was going all out for the plate, I wouldnt' even have a run scoring on this.

I've seen this before (and didn't call the force out), and that wasn't the outcome. The fielder ran over the base for what he thought was a 3rd out force, and continued running toward the dugout. The runner knew the situation and continued to run, coming into (in this case) 3B standing up. He requested time, which I granted, and the defense came back onto the field.

I don't have a comment about protests; my state doesn't allow them for HS games, and I've never been involved in one in the summer leagues I work.

In the OP, if my partner had screwed up in this fashion, I'd encourage him to rectify the error. That would probably mean pissing off everybody: put all the runners back on their TOP bases and continue with 2 outs. My thinking:
1. The BR is out on the IFF, which happened pre-screwup.
2. The runners took off pre-screwup, and so were liable to be put out.
3. The defense screwed up by not tagging R1; had R1 continued, everyone would have been safe.
4. The offense screwed up when R1 broke off his running; still, his error can be explained by the umpire's error, unlike that of the defense.
5. Of course, the umpire screwed up. To rectify his error, we could either allow some/all runners to advance or put them all back to their TOP bases.
6. Allowing runners to advance, IMO, punishes the defense too much for their error and the offense too little for theirs.
7. Allowing the 3rd out to stand, IMO, punishes the offense too much for their error and the defense too little for theirs.
8. The middle ground is to put the runners back on their TOP bases and count the out for the IFF. That's a slight advantage to the offense, but they deserve it because their error was at least partly caused by the umpire's error.