Ejection

[jicecone]

Bad situation any way you look at it, but made even worse by the fact that the ejected player was the cleanup hitter, who we are told had 17 homers to his credit, and was due up 3rd in the top of the 7th

Just like the 17 year old kid that got tassered because he ran accross the MLB baseball field, too bad for him. A good umpire does what he has to, when he has too. I am assuming that because this was a "local quarterfinal playoff game" the the official was one of the better ones, so I 'm not questioning his call.

[just another ref]

Originally Posted by jicecone

Bad situation any way you look at it, but made even worse by the fact that the ejected player was the cleanup hitter, who we are told had 17 homers to his credit, and was due up 3rd in the top of the 7th

Just like the 17 year old kid that got tassered because he ran accross the MLB baseball field, too bad for him. A good umpire does what he has to, when he has too. I am assuming that because this was a "local quarterfinal playoff game" the the official was one of the better ones, so I 'm not questioning his call.

When I say the situation was made worse because of who the kid was, I was referring to the fan reactions which came afterward. I believe the umpire was unimpressed, and rightfully so, by who the player was.

As to the quality of the crew for the game, I'm told they were the same two guys who had called the previous game at the same school. This is unusual, is it not? In the previous game, (I wasn't there but I hear from a credible source) there was a towering shot which bounced over the fence, which apparently was obvious to a lot of people. After a significant pause, the guy made the round trip signal, which drew the "WHAT???!!!" reaction from the crowd. Plate umpire stepped out and asked if it bounced. Field umpire quickly nodded and signaled two bases.

Draw your own conclusion.

[johnnyg08]

Pretty simple to me. This sounds like a FED game based on your scenario and the ruling. Kid shoves another kid and every person in the stadium sees it, as the umpire, I'm obligated to rule on it whether is the water boy or the super star you're referring to. He should know better. Don't penalize the umpire for the kid using poor judgment. Yes, there might have been a jab that wasn't seen. Tough. What the umpire sees, is what his call is going to be. I've been around long enough now to know that when there's an ejection, somebody's going to whine. Tough...you do what you have to do as an umpire.

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by just another ref

As to the quality of the crew for the game, I'm told they were the same two guys who had called the previous game at the same school. This is unusual, is it not? In the previous game, (I wasn't there but I hear from a credible source) there was a towering shot which bounced over the fence, which apparently was obvious to a lot of people. After a significant pause, the guy made the round trip signal, which drew the "WHAT???!!!" reaction from the crowd. Plate umpire stepped out and asked if it bounced. Field umpire quickly nodded and signaled two bases.

Draw your own conclusion.

1) It's common here for the same crew to be assigned all games of a particular playoff series.

2) It's sometimes hard to tell whether a ball goes over the fence or bounces over the fence. The crew worked together to get the call right.

Conclusions: Fans, coaches, players are biased observers of the events. Umpires sometimes make mistakes. Life goes on.

[Arnold A.]

Originally Posted by bob jenkins

1) It's common here for the same crew to be assigned all games of a particular playoff series.

2) It's sometimes hard to tell whether a ball goes over the fence or bounces over the fence. The crew worked together to get the call right.

Conclusions: Fans, coaches, players are biased observers of the events. Umpires sometimes make mistakes. Life goes on.

Very well put ! And, correct.

[JRutledge]

Sounds like a good ejection to me. It is common that umpires/officials see the retaliation. That is why you do not overreact when something happens to you.

The kid decided that he did not want to play when he gave a forearm shiver.

And like Bob said, who cares about what the fans or observers think.

Peace

[DG]

[QUOTE=bob jenkins;676343]1)It's sometimes hard to tell whether a ball goes over the fence or bounces over the fence.[QUOTE]Had one last week at a field that has nothing but trees beyond the fence, and a low fence. If not for the yellow tubing on the top of the fence it would be impossible. So late in the game, after an obstruction call the defensive coach could not comprehend, a high fly ball is hit out into left center, and me, thinking I saw it land over the fence and then bounce high, and after F8 did not raise his hands over his head like they usually do (sometimes they will help you make the call), signal HR. F8 had run right up to within 10 feet of the fence when it went over. HC goes nuts, fans go nuts, everyone screaming that it bounced over. HC hollers out to his F8 by name, "DID IT BOUNCE OVER THE FENCE?", to which he hollered back "NOOOOOOO". I just grinned, because up until then I was certain the call was correct, but reaction by fans and HC had me wondering if I blew one.

[bniu]

[QUOTE=DG;676485]

Originally Posted by bob jenkins

1)HC hollers out to his F8 by name, "DID IT BOUNCE OVER THE FENCE?", to which he hollered back "NOOOOOOO". I just grinned, because up until then I was certain the call was correct, but reaction by fans and HC had me wondering if I blew one.

gotta love an honest kid.