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There was contact between the runner and the first baseman. I didn't see the play enough to describe in detail, but the guy next to me said the runner actually initiated the exchange with a little swipe/poke at the 1B's midsection. 1B retaliated with, judging by the ump's demonstration to the coach, what could be described as a forearm shiver. This looked even worse because the 1B was a head taller and considerably heavier than the runner. Ump, without hesitation, pointed and signaled gone.
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You see this many times especially in football where-by the one who retaliates is the one who gets penalized.
Sounds like Neither ump saw the first incident. You said F3 was a head taller and considerably heavier. You also said R2/R3 so BU was most likely in the 'C" position during the initial play and did not see the iniital contact.
The PU would most likely be in better position to see the original contact but non-the-less when a player in baseball gives another player a forearm shiver is a form of MC and they are ejected. You cannot "let that go" A fore-arm shiver is a punch of some kind.
IMO, basketball would be the same. Once a player fore-arms another they are done for the day.
It's one thing if you can "step in the middle" before anything happens and quite another when the "deed" is already done.
Yes, the original offender gets off "scott free" this time but if that's the type of player he is it's just a matter of time before he "gets his"
Pete Booth