Cowboy Joe Rips Yankees/Red Sox

[Rich Ives]

I went to the referenced story and found:

During spring training, Red Sox closer Jonathan Papelbon told WEEI.com: "Have you ever gone to watch a movie and thought, 'Man, this movie is so good I wish it would have never ended.' That's like a Red Sox-Yankees game. Why would you want it to end?"

Way to go Jonathan!

From a Yankee perspective: Watch a replay of the July 1 game where Jeter dove into the stands. Or watch the Bucky Dent game with Yaz popping up in the bottom of the ninth.

A Sox fan would add their memories - like the comeback from 0-3.

Tell Joe we don't care. It's Yankees-Red Sox.

[zm1283]

Originally Posted by GA Umpire

Football has a lot of down time. Actually, the average offense/defense is only playing about 20 minutes of the game. Much of it is standing around and letting the clock go down. Not to mention the clock stopping for incompletes and out of bounds. It is perceived different but it is very similar. An average of 30 or more seconds is wasted between each play. That adds up.

This is true. NFL games in person can be very boring at times. Commercials after every punt, every change of possession, etc. I took my wife to her first NFL game a couple of years ago and she said "It's fun but they really stand around a lot".

[johnnyg08]

That's a good point...any Div I football game or NFL game in person has quite a bit of down time...and you can't really leave your seat for fear of missing the "big play"

[grunewar]

Originally Posted by zm1283

This is true. NFL games in person can be very boring at times. Commercials after every punt, every change of possession, etc. I took my wife to her first NFL game a couple of years ago and she said "It's fun but they really stand around a lot".

When I was in the military (1980s), my buds and I crossed the channel from Germany and went to the first NFL game in Wembley Stadium - Cardinals vs Vikings. We had a blast.

We sat with a bunch of Brits who agreed (my recollection) to keep us in beer as long as we explained the game to them as it went along! How great is that.

Opening kickoff. Tackle. TWEET! One guy turns to me and says, "Where are they all going?"

I said, "What?"

He said, "The players, they're leaving the field. Where are they going?"

I said, "Oh. Those were the kickoff teams. Now, the offense and defense are coming on the field."

He said, "Oh, ok, in Rugby we just keep going. I don't see the point....."

It was great fun, best I can recall......


Yep, there is a lot of downtime in all sports - especially tv games.

[mbyron]

Originally Posted by grunewar

Opening kickoff. Tackle. TWEET! One guy turns to me and says, "Where are they all going?"

I said, "What?"

He said, "The players, they're leaving the field. Where are they going?"

I said, "Oh. Those were the kickoff teams. Now, the offense and defense are coming on the field."

He said, "Oh, ok, in Rugby we just keep going. I don't see the point....."

A Brit I know once described football as the quintessential American sport: "it features episodes of extreme violence, interrupted by a committee meeting."

Brilliant.

[Rich]

Originally Posted by Rich Ives

I went to the referenced story and found:

During spring training, Red Sox closer Jonathan Papelbon told WEEI.com: "Have you ever gone to watch a movie and thought, 'Man, this movie is so good I wish it would have never ended.' That's like a Red Sox-Yankees game. Why would you want it to end?"

Way to go Jonathan!

From a Yankee perspective: Watch a replay of the July 1 game where Jeter dove into the stands. Or watch the Bucky Dent game with Yaz popping up in the bottom of the ninth.

A Sox fan would add their memories - like the comeback from 0-3.

Tell Joe we don't care. It's Yankees-Red Sox.

Two teams that think Major League Baseball revolve around them. I'd rather watch Pittsburgh against Kansas City, to be quite honest.

[ozzy6900]

Originally Posted by RichMSN

Two teams that think Major League Baseball revolve around them. I'd rather watch Pittsburgh against Kansas City, to be quite honest.

NY vs Boston is something that cannot be understood by anyone West of NY & NJ. It is purley a New England thing and when the two teams meet, it is revenue time! Everyone from MLB right down to the corner bar profits from Red Sox/Yankees games. You would be hard pressed to find more loyalty to a team than you find with a New York or Boston fan and the revenue that is generated would out do any other park (if Fenway were larger). As much as I do not like the Yankees, I never miss a battle of these two teams because the rivalry will always be the best in baseball.

[PeteBooth]

Originally Posted by ozzy6900

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RE: - MONEY

When both the Red Sox / Yanks sucked no one cared about the rivalry.

I am not a fan of either but IMO, the Royals with George Brett and the Yanks playoff series were just as intense as any Red-Sox Yankeee game.

You had many dramatic thrills during those playoff series.

In other words for the most part when the teams suck the rivalry loses it's luster.

just look at Michigan / Ohio St. regarded as one of the greatest rivalries ever, however, now that Michigan sucks that game lost it's luster.

Pete Booth

[Rich Ives]

Originally Posted by PeteBooth

RE: - MONEY

When both the Red Sox / Yanks sucked no one cared about the rivalry.

I am not a fan of either

Pete Booth

Not being a fan of either is why you don't get it.

Ohio State - Michigan hasn't lost its luster in Ohio or Michigan.

[Rich]

Originally Posted by ozzy6900

NY vs Boston is something that cannot be understood by anyone West of NY & NJ. It is purley a New England thing and when the two teams meet, it is revenue time! Everyone from MLB right down to the corner bar profits from Red Sox/Yankees games. You would be hard pressed to find more loyalty to a team than you find with a New York or Boston fan and the revenue that is generated would out do any other park (if Fenway were larger). As much as I do not like the Yankees, I never miss a battle of these two teams because the rivalry will always be the best in baseball.

I suppose. I lived in Boston for 3 years and I went to 3 or 4 games at Fenway. I really never got it, I guess.

I always thought the Red Sox were obsessed with the Yankees -- hearing chants about the Yankees when they weren't even playing, well, I found that a bit strange. I figured when they won their WS, some of that inferiority complex (which, frankly, a lot of it was) would go away, but it merely morphed into something else.

Now I'm just a Phillies fan living in Wisconsin with a Brewers season ticket plan.

[grunewar]

Agree

Originally Posted by PeteBooth

In other words for the most part when the teams suck the rivalry loses it's luster.

Just look at the Redskins / Cowboys regarded as a great rivalry, however, now that Washington sucks that game lost it's luster.

Pete Booth

Now, even I can understand it.

Originally Posted by Rich Ives

Not being a fan of either is why you don't get it.

Washington - Dallas hasn't lost its luster in MD/Va or Texas.

Oh yes it has...... When one team is non-competitve (like losing 8 of 10) it isn't a "rivlary". My $.02

[Welpe]

I'll take the Giants/Dodgers rivalry anyday.

[mbyron]

Originally Posted by RichMSN

Now I'm just a Phillies fan living in Wisconsin with a Brewers season ticket plan.

Sounds vaguely like a "country music" lyric for the Badger State trailer crowd.

[Jurassic Referee]

Apparently Country Joe has turned into a Uniform Police guardian also....

Yankees-Red Sox umpire ordered uniform changes - NYPOST.com

[ASA/NYSSOBLUE]

Just FYI: West had the plate today for Blue Jays/Orioles - time of game: 2:02.....