Cowboy Joe Rips Yankees/Red Sox

[Toadman15241]

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[ozzy6900]

Tell it like it is, Joe! All of baseball needs to step up the damn pace. 3.5 hours and longer is a joke!

[GerryB]

for a completely clueless/fanboy viewpoint check out

Joe West - Sox Yankees games "Pathetic & Embarrassing" - Sons of Sam Horn

[Rich]

Originally Posted by GerryB

for a completely clueless/fanboy viewpoint check out

Joe West - Sox Yankees games "Pathetic & Embarrassing" - Sons of Sam Horn

I laughed at this, mainly cause it's so over the top:

The World Umpires Association is a corpulent, power-mad, entitled bunch of reeking old crotches, and having a mutant, professional wattle grower like Joe West as their poster boy summarizes them aptly. I hope we hear from West again soon about a personal and epically embarrassing scandal - some damning transgression like gambling, kidtouching, serial affairs, a drug habit - because to me arrogance like his is of the "doth protest too much" variety that is most often seen in politics, celebrity, Wall Street, and other such positions of drunk power.

[Rich Ives]

The NFL changed it's scheduled start times (Eastern)

Used to be 1:00 & 4:00

Now 1:00 & 4:15

Because games are taking over three hours.

But Hey - it's FOOTBALL so it's OK that the games are that long.

What's the wall clock time for an NBA game or an NHL game?

Why isn't anyone complaining about them?

[GerryB]

Perception; they have clocks. You think you can know when it will end. Who knows when a baseball game will end?

[Rich]

Originally Posted by Rich Ives

The NFL changed it's scheduled start times (Eastern)

Used to be 1:00 & 4:00

Now 1:00 & 4:15

Because games are taking over three hours.

But Hey - it's FOOTBALL so it's OK that the games are that long.

What's the wall clock time for an NBA game or an NHL game?

Why isn't anyone complaining about them?

For hockey, most games start at 6:05PM (locally) and they're over by about 8:40PM at the latest.

There are MLB games that start at 7:35PM locally that run until near midnight. No other sport has games that run (routinely) over 4 hours.

Also, the NFL has a 17 week schedule, and the NBA and NHL play half the games MLB does. Fewer games means I'm more tolerant of long games. But when my team plays 10 days in a row, I don't want to stay up till midnight every night watching night games.

[PeteBooth]

Originally Posted by Rich Ives

?

Because they are action packed. I am not an avid hockey fan as I once was but IMO it is a great sport to see in person. Action up and down the ice.

NBA and football are the same meaning there is "action" going on.

Baseball has too much "down time" within the game. Also, the Yankee pitcher's (although they will not admit it publically) do not like Posada to catch them. Constantly during the game when Posada catches he goes out and talks to the pitchers more then any other catcher I know of.

MLB needs to so something about player conferences. There should be ONE visit ALLOWED to F1 by any member of the team PERIOD. In other words if F2 talks to F1 that is a charged conference.

Also, forget about throwing 4 balls on an IBB. Use the FED rule. I know people will bring up Rolly Fingers pitching to Johnny Bench in the world series but in MLB how many times has their been a mishap on an IBB.

The strike zone. It is different from back in the day. More strikes need to be called and I am not talking about the Eric Gregg strike zone.

In other words when a baseball game takes 3.5 to 4 hours to complete for the most part it is BORING compared to a Hockey / football or basketball game where there is constant action.

Pete Booth

[Kevin Finnerty]

Originally Posted by Rich Ives

What's the wall clock time for an NBA game or an NHL game?

Why isn't anyone complaining about them?

The NBA's brand of basketball has become a sad joke on what was once a wonderful game.