Earrings and a ponytail.

[SanDiegoSteve]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

Pat Roberson is not just a fiscal conservative, he is much more of a social conservative and guys like him helped stoke the fire of people like McVeigh and their views of the government.

That is totally asinine and very insulting to me personally to smear a good man like Pat Robertson's name by saying that what he preaches fired up a sleaze bucket like McVeigh. Why don't you go look up what Pat Roberston, the 700 Club, and CBN have done for victims of natural disasters in this country. Find a group who helped out anymore during Katrina, for example. You can't. Yeah, blame the Christians for mentally deranged individuals blowing up a building. Ridiculous link.

[SanDiegoSteve]

Oh, that long list? You sure left a whole lot of democratic politicians and pundits off the list. Where is Barack? Where is Carville or Stephanopolis? Blitzer, Matthews, Olbermann? Just to name a few. I'm sure I can find a whole lot more.

[Kevin Finnerty]

Originally Posted by SanDiegoSteve

Oh, that long list? You sure left a whole lot of democratic politicians and pundits off the list. Where is Barack? Where is Carville or Stephanopolis? Blitzer, Matthews, Olbermann? Just to name a few. I'm sure I can find a whole lot more.

It's from 2004. When Kerry got defamed for his service.

[SanDiegoSteve]

Oh yeah, the famous "threw my medals over the wall" scandal.

[Kevin Finnerty]

The point was that Kerry was an actual hero who actually laid his life on the line to serve and actually saved men while he served, while some of those leaders calling him into question--like Cheney--were too busy, or too privileged, or too cowardly to serve.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by SanDiegoSteve

That is totally asinine and very insulting to me personally to smear a good man like Pat Robertson's name by saying that what he preaches fired up a sleaze bucket like McVeigh. Why don't you go look up what Pat Roberston, the 700 Club, and CBN have done for victims of natural disasters in this country. Find a group who helped out anymore during Katrina, for example. You can't. Yeah, blame the Christians for mentally deranged individuals blowing up a building. Ridiculous link.

For your information I am a Christian and I do not share the views of Pat Robertson or many people on the so-called religious right. And I would never say things that Robertson has said about others as he has publicly. You can be insulted all you want to be, but McVeigh and others in his movement were Christians as well. Even the Klan considers themselves a Christian organization. I am not sure why you are all of sudden offended by this connection when clearly people claim all kinds of religious affiliations and do un-Christian things.

And yes there were many groups that helped people in the Katrina situation. There were numerous groups that did so. I am not sure what that has to do with anything.

Peace

[Ump Rube]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

I am not sure what that has to do with anything.

If I may rephrase...

I am not sure what that has to do with umpiring.

[Kevin Finnerty]

I have decided to interpret Christianity to mean that I can have sex with 10 or 12 mistresses as long as none of them ever meet each other. It seems like a more beneficial interpretation than the kind that make me want to kill or die.

I'm not greedy. I don't need 72. And no virgins ... experience is everything.