Ponytail

[Judtech]

A friend of mine brought this up awhile ago and said something similar happened last nite.
Play 1 - Girl dives on floor for ball and slides to a stop near the sideline. Her ponytail, following the laws of Thermodynamics, continues to 'head' to the sideline. She is about 4" inbounds, however, the pony tail comes to rest out of bounds. He blows the whistle for OB

Play 2 - A1 B1 scramble under basket for loose ball. A1 is partially sitting and B1 is reaching for the ball. As A1 leans on her elbow, her ponytail is touching OB. Both players now have a firm grasp on the ball. In this case it was called a JUMP and went to AP

From what I understand, in BOTH cases the players were wearing legally approved hair control devices

[chartrusepengui]

I don't believe I'm calling a pony tail OOB

In volleyball ( I know, I know) when the pony tail/hair touches the net it is NOT a net foul and this is specified in the rules. Until something is specified for BB I'm not calling this.

I may be wrong - but I'm not calling it!

[bigdogrunnin]

Is the hair not part of the body? OOB in both situations.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by bigdogrunnin

Is the hair not part of the body? OOB in both situations.

I believe there was a ruling or interpretation on this topic and the hair was considered out of bounds.

Peace

[chartrusepengui]

Originally Posted by bigdogrunnin

Is the hair not part of the body? OOB in both situations.

If a player A1 is making a try and is guarded by B1. B2 is standing next to B1 but facing a different direction. She hears B1 yell help, as she turns, her pony tail swings and makes contact with A1 on the try. Are you going to call a foul on B2 for the pony tail contact here? Or for any other ponytail/hair contact?

[NCAAREF]

You guys are "really splitting hairs"....ugh.....

[JugglingReferee]

Originally Posted by Judtech

A friend of mine brought this up awhile ago and said something similar happened last nite.

Play 1 - Girl dives on floor for ball and slides to a stop near the sideline. Her ponytail, following the laws of Thermodynamics, continues to 'head' to the sideline. She is about 4" inbounds, however, the pony tail comes to rest out of bounds. He blows the whistle for OB

Play 2 - A1 B1 scramble under basket for loose ball. A1 is partially sitting and B1 is reaching for the ball. As A1 leans on her elbow, her ponytail is touching OB. Both players now have a firm grasp on the ball. In this case it was called a JUMP and went to AP

From what I understand, in BOTH cases the players were wearing legally approved hair control devices

OB I believe, in both cases. Hair is part of the body.

Thermodynamics? What does the heat energy of this girl's hair have to do with anything? Perhaps you mean the laws of momentum?

Originally Posted by chartrusepengui

If a player A1 is making a try and is guarded by B1. B2 is standing next to B1 but facing a different direction. She hears B1 yell help, as she turns, her pony tail swings and makes contact with A1 on the try. Are you going to call a foul on B2 for the pony tail contact here? Or for any other ponytail/hair contact?

Marginal contact is not a foul

[Freddy]

Originally Posted by chartrusepengui

I may be wrong - but I'm not calling it!

When this phrase is stated, does anybody else get uncomfortable?

[Judtech]

My bad, it is actually the first of Newton's Laws of Motion. I was distracted by changing the heat settings on my THERMOstat

[Johnny Ringo]

I had a play similar to the one describe in earlier post.

Play: helpside defender turns quickly and pony tail hits girl in the face as she is dribbling. In reflex, the dribbler reached for her face ... ball squirtted away and she fell to the floor ... I had foul on the defender ... nobody argued.

Originally Posted by Johnny Ringo

I had a play similar to the one describe in earlier post.

Play: helpside defender turns quickly and pony tail hits girl in the face as she is dribbling. In reflex, the dribbler reached for her face ... ball squirtted away and she fell to the floor ... I had foul on the defender ... nobody argued.

Guess I'll have to see this happen to understand. Out of curiousity what level of ball was this?
Good thing she didn't have dreds. That may have been an intentional. j/k

[grunewar]

Originally Posted by Johnny Ringo

I had a play similar to the one describe in earlier post.

Play: helpside defender turns quickly and pony tail hits girl in the face as she is dribbling. In reflex, the dribbler reached for her face ... ball squirtted away and she fell to the floor ... I had foul on the defender ... nobody argued.

A similar thread on ponytails from 2003.....and look who started it.

Illegal use of ponytail?

[Mark Padgett]

I called a kid OOB once when his nosehairs were touching the line.

[fullor30]

Originally Posted by Mark Padgett

I called a kid OOB once when his nosehairs were touching the line.

Line of what??