Horrible Mechanics

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by dash_riprock

When the ball is hit, PU busts it to the library to read the play. IF the ball is caught, AND the runner tags, AND there is a play on him at 3rd (fielder with the ball + the runner), then get to the cutout. If the ball is not caught, go back home. If there is no play, go back home. PU does not have the force or any other play on the bases.

Agreed with Dash and Rich. The play "changed" from a "caught fly" to a "base hit" -- and on a base hit with R1 and R2, PU stays home.

[GA Umpire]

Originally Posted by bob jenkins

Agreed with Dash and Rich. The play "changed" from a "caught fly" to a "base hit" -- and on a base hit with R1 and R2, PU stays home.

The play changed on a possibly "trapped" ball. If it is an obvious base hit, then yes, PU stays at home b/c of the timing of everything. But, on a play where there is a possibility of being caught and it is in question up until F8 comes up with the ball, PU stands around and waits to see?

In the OP, there was a question(strong possibility of being caught) so why would the PU be standing at HP to see if caught or not? And, it sounds like the play was read wrong and the PU got caught standing at HP instead of anticipating the play at 3B.

I would rather be on top of 3B letting my partner know I am there than to be standing at HP and guess wrong about the play.

[Rich]

Originally Posted by GA Umpire

The play changed on a possibly "trapped" ball. If it is an obvious base hit, then yes, PU stays at home b/c of the timing of everything. But, on a play where there is a possibility of being caught and it is in question up until F8 comes up with the ball, PU stands around and waits to see?

In the OP, there was a question(strong possibility of being caught) so why would the PU be standing at HP to see if caught or not? And, it sounds like the play was read wrong and the PU got caught standing at HP instead of anticipating the play at 3B.

I would rather be on top of 3B letting my partner know I am there than to be standing at HP and guess wrong about the play.

But you are not supposed to be "at third" unless there are three components to this -- a catch, a runner, and a ball. Since there was no catch, you are no more than 50 feet down the line, in the library (in foul ground), and you are heading home. You are not at the plate waiting for the catch -- you are at the same place you'd be on a base hit with R1 -- in the library waiting to see if there's a runner and a ball coming to third. If not, you get no closer to third and stay in foul ground.

By tag play, I mean the runner tagged, not a tag with the glove, BTW.

If we worked together and you came up on that, we'd likely have a double call cause once I signal "no catch" I know my plate guy is home and I'm taking any plate at any base.