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Old Thu Jun 11, 2009, 02:05pm
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I did not lie, cheat or steal.

Now, the guy that took money for a job that he knew he could not do...some might say he was cheating and/or lying and/or stealing.
You lied: "You can't call him out. You already called him safe."

Of COURSE he could have changed his own call. Liar.
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Old Thu Jun 11, 2009, 02:08pm
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You lied: "You can't call him out. You already called him safe."

Of COURSE he could have changed his own call. Liar.
If you are going to call me a liar, then do not intentionally misquote me.
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Old Thu Jun 11, 2009, 02:18pm
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Joe,

That was inexcuseable of Rich to "misquote" you like that, when you actually said:

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...when I turn around, BU says I think he should be out. I said, "Nope, too late. You called him safe."
Oh, wait, Rich didn't mis-characterize what you said in any way!

Liar.

Can you see China yet? Well, keep digging, you gotta be gettin' close.

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Old Thu Jun 11, 2009, 03:00pm
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Joe,

That was inexcuseable of Rich to "misquote" you like that, when you actually said:



Oh, wait, Rich didn't mis-characterize what you said in any way!

Liar.

Can you see China yet? Well, keep digging, you gotta be gettin' close.

JM
What I find so humerous about this is that in the last thread, Joe was complaining about the umpire that "lied" to him.

Now let's see, who's telling the young umpire the lie now ...

LOL

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Old Thu Jun 11, 2009, 03:27pm
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Let's see, he lied and, as he stated, he just smiled about it as he walked away.

So, to put it in just 4 words:

Lyin, sleazy, cheesy, Rat.
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Old Thu Jun 11, 2009, 04:41pm
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Joe,

That was inexcuseable of Rich to "misquote" you like that, when you actually said:



Oh, wait, Rich didn't mis-characterize what you said in any way!

Liar.

Can you see China yet? Well, keep digging, you gotta be gettin' close.

JM
JM,

Could you stop shooting your mouth off and try to interpret what Jwwashburn said. He told the umpire that he couldn't change a call, and if I were a coach trying to gain an advantage, I would say the same thing. Do you really think you are above trying to influence an umpire? Can you honestly tell me you have never taken shots at other umpires during your coaching (or umpiring) days?

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Old Thu Jun 11, 2009, 03:35pm
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If you are going to call me a liar, then do not intentionally misquote me.
Intentionally misquote? Shoot, what you said and what I misquoted pretty much say the same thing.
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Old Thu Jun 11, 2009, 03:45pm
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If you are going to call me a liar, then do not intentionally misquote me.

RichMSN: "You called him safe, you can't change it now."

You: "Nope, too late. You called him safe."

Oh, yes, I can see how RichMSN completely, and obvously intentionally, misquted you and changed the entire meaning of what you said.

Shame on him.

And, shame on us for expecting you to act in any other way. You're a coach. It's just your nature.
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Old Thu Jun 11, 2009, 04:20pm
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I guess if you're proud of what you did so be it. Apparently our opinion of how you handled it doesn't matter to you so next time keep it off this board.
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Old Thu Jun 11, 2009, 04:43pm
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I guess if you're proud of what you did so be it. Apparently our opinion of how you handled it doesn't matter to you so next time keep it off this board.
My guess is that it is hard to take any of you seriously when you flame for no reason. This whole thread was doomed right from the time JM posted.
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Old Thu Jun 11, 2009, 04:46pm
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RichMSN: "You called him safe, you can't change it now."

You: "Nope, too late. You called him safe."

Oh, yes, I can see how RichMSN completely, and obvously intentionally, misquted you and changed the entire meaning of what you said.

Shame on him.

And, shame on us for expecting you to act in any other way. You're a coach. It's just your nature.
Without a coach you have no job. Without someone to suggest that you can't change a call, there is no reason for umpires to be on the field. Be thankful for people like Jwwashburn who are the reason you were hired in the first place.
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Old Thu Jun 11, 2009, 04:55pm
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So.............
When performing umpire duties we must display integrity.
When performing coaching duties integrity is not necessary.

I get it now..........
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Old Thu Jun 11, 2009, 04:59pm
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Old Fri Jun 12, 2009, 08:36am
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So.............
When performing umpire duties we must display integrity.
When performing coaching duties integrity is not necessary.

I get it now..........
This has always been the case. No coach is there to be your friend unless by pretending so, he can gain a tactical advantage.

If you view all coaches as the enemy, you will not be wrong more than 0.000001% of the time, and you gotta like those odds. A tactical truce is about the best you can expect.

Every single coach who has posted in this forum over the years merely solidifies this basic precept.
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Old Fri Jun 12, 2009, 09:10am
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This has always been the case. No coach is there to be your friend unless by pretending so, he can gain a tactical advantage.

If you view all coaches as the enemy, you will not be wrong more than 0.000001% of the time, and you gotta like those odds. A tactical truce is about the best you can expect.

Every single coach who has posted in this forum over the years merely solidifies this basic precept.
And don't forget that umpires are never to blame for anything.
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