substitute question

[Tim C]

In this world of political correctness we no longer call players "substitutes" we call them "alternative starters."

[w_sohl]

Originally Posted by MrUmpire

There's a reason to having never thought of it. It's wrong.

In our area, it isn't wrong. Only players listed on the lineup at the time of protest, if it is upheld, will be permitted to participate in the continuation of said protested game.

[MrUmpire]

Originally Posted by w_sohl

In our area, it isn't wrong. Only players listed on the lineup at the time of protest, if it is upheld, will be permitted to participate in the continuation of said protested game.

Then that's how you should have portrayed it, as a local abberation.

[Mark T. DeNucci, Sr.]

Originally Posted by w_sohl

In our area, it isn't wrong. Only players listed on the lineup at the time of protest, if it is upheld, will be permitted to participate in the continuation of said protested game.

Are you saying that the CIF has a rule that supersedes the NFHS rule? Or are you saying that umpires in your area will not allow it?

MTD, Sr.

[umpjong]

Originally Posted by Tim C

In this world of political correctness we no longer call players "substitutes" we call them "alternative starters."

D***, I missed another memo.

[mikebran]

Originally Posted by w_sohl

However, if a protest is made and upheld the coach can only play with the players listed on his lineup card the day of that game. He cannot add new players later so it is in his best interest to have everyone on the card wether they'll come in or not.

Uh, this is BS. Unless you have some "local rule", that the other 99.9% here don't care about.

Can this question have made the 1,000th time posted?

OBR
FED

NO SUB listings are required.

And if I get sent to start the 4th inning of a PROTEST game started 3 weeks prior, we will do our best to get started with proper players, but then he can sub in WHOEVER HE DAMN WELL PLEASES. (that is legal). REgardless of what that 3 week old lineup card says.

Jeez.

[w_sohl]

Originally Posted by Mark T. DeNucci, Sr.

Are you saying that the CIF has a rule that supersedes the NFHS rule? Or are you saying that umpires in your area will not allow it?

MTD, Sr.

No, I'm saying that is what the powers that be in our association have told us on protests. It was news to me when I heard it this year. Made some sense to me, but seems like it would be difficult to enforce unless the other coach took care of it.

[w_sohl]

Originally Posted by mikebran

Uh, this is BS. Unless you have some "local rule", that the other 99.9% here don't care about.

Can this question have made the 1,000th time posted?

OBR
FED

NO SUB listings are required.

And if I get sent to start the 4th inning of a PROTEST game started 3 weeks prior, we will do our best to get started with proper players, but then he can sub in WHOEVER HE DAMN WELL PLEASES. (that is legal). REgardless of what that 3 week old lineup card says.

Jeez.

Deep breaths dude, deep breaths...

See post above...

[Mark T. DeNucci, Sr.]

Originally Posted by w_sohl

No, I'm saying that is what the powers that be in our association have told us on protests. It was news to me when I heard it this year. Made some sense to me, but seems like it would be difficult to enforce unless the other coach took care of it.

Since when does an umpires' association have the right to issue a ruling that is a direct violaiton of the rules code they are required to uphold?

MTD, Sr.

[Mark T. DeNucci, Sr.]

Originally Posted by mikebran

Uh, this is BS. Unless you have some "local rule", that the other 99.9% here don't care about.

Can this question have made the 1,000th time posted?

OBR
FED

NO SUB listings are required.

And if I get sent to start the 4th inning of a PROTEST game started 3 weeks prior, we will do our best to get started with proper players, but then he can sub in WHOEVER HE DAMN WELL PLEASES. (that is legal). REgardless of what that 3 week old lineup card says.

Jeez.

I agree with you.

MTD, Sr.

[w_sohl]

Originally Posted by Mark T. DeNucci, Sr.

Since when does an umpires' association have the right to issue a ruling that is a direct violaiton of the rules code they are required to uphold?

MTD, Sr.

This is just what we were told. Not sure if it is CIF or what, just what was said in the meeting.