“Coach Dad” Shenanigans

[DG]

I just read 8.05 again and I don't see anything on this "move". However, J/R says it is a balk if a pitcher "throws to first baseman who, because of his distance from the base, is (or would have been) unable to try a tag against a runner at first base."

I can envision a possible attempt at a tag in this situation if F1 is catching the ball 5 feet from the bag while moving toward the bag.

If memory serves this "move" is covered in the Evans Balk video as well.

[JR12]

The MLBUM says a throw to F3 not near the bag is a balk, however a throw to a middle infielder or third baseman, not near 2nd or 3rd is NOT a balk!

[DG]

Originally Posted by JR12

The MLBUM says a throw to F3 not near the bag is a balk, however a throw to a middle infielder or third baseman, not near 2nd or 3rd is NOT a balk!

It also says "and is obviously not making an attempt at retiring the runner at first base". In this situation "F3 breaks toward the bag (timing play) and F1 throws the ball to him five feet away from 1B."

[btdt]

On the Jim Evans balk video, he specifically shows this play and proclaims it legal. I will go with Jim Evans ............. it's legal

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by DG

It also says "and is obviously not making an attempt at retiring the runner at first base". In this situation "F3 breaks toward the bag (timing play) and F1 throws the ball to him five feet away from 1B."

5 feet is pretty near the effin bag. I agree with those that have "no balk" on the play as described.

[dash_riprock]

And moving toward it as well. IOW, 5 feet and closing. By the time you call the balk, he's on top of it.

[mbyron]

I made a post this morning in this thread. What happened to it?

[PeteBooth]

Originally Posted by mbyron

I made a post this morning in this thread. What happened to it?

Was this it?

Originally Posted by njdevs00cup
In between innings, "Coach Dad" and his posse of five other coaches (quickly fixed that) come out and say this is a legal play.

Any good one liners to handle situations like this?

"No it isn't. Rule 8.05."
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[Kevin Finnerty]

Originally Posted by mbyron

I made a post this morning in this thread. What happened to it?

Unaccountable censorship. Welcome to the club.

[dileonardoja]

Don't really see the problem with this play. It isn't a balk. See the Evans video. If F3 is breaking toward the bag and receives the ball 5 ft away he can easily apply a tag with the next step and in doing so is making a play. What is the problem?