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Old Sun Apr 26, 2009, 10:15pm
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The MLBUM says a throw to F3 not near the bag is a balk, however a throw to a middle infielder or third baseman, not near 2nd or 3rd is NOT a balk!
It also says "and is obviously not making an attempt at retiring the runner at first base". In this situation "F3 breaks toward the bag (timing play) and F1 throws the ball to him five feet away from 1B."
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Old Sun Apr 26, 2009, 10:45pm
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On the Jim Evans balk video, he specifically shows this play and proclaims it legal. I will go with Jim Evans ............. it's legal
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Old Mon Apr 27, 2009, 07:06am
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It also says "and is obviously not making an attempt at retiring the runner at first base". In this situation "F3 breaks toward the bag (timing play) and F1 throws the ball to him five feet away from 1B."
5 feet is pretty near the effin bag. I agree with those that have "no balk" on the play as described.
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Old Mon Apr 27, 2009, 07:15am
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And moving toward it as well. IOW, 5 feet and closing. By the time you call the balk, he's on top of it.
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Old Mon Apr 27, 2009, 10:52am
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I made a post this morning in this thread. What happened to it?
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Old Mon Apr 27, 2009, 11:08am
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I made a post this morning in this thread. What happened to it?
Was this it?


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In between innings, "Coach Dad" and his posse of five other coaches (quickly fixed that) come out and say this is a legal play.

Any good one liners to handle situations like this?

"No it isn't. Rule 8.05."
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Old Mon Apr 27, 2009, 11:14am
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F3 was making a play. I also have nothing...
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Old Mon Apr 27, 2009, 08:55pm
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First off, I will order the Evans video as recommended.

Second, I want to clarify this. Can F1 throw to F3 in any position, from the rubber, if 1B is occupied? I was always taught that the throw needs to go directly to the bag in this situation. To clarify my initial post, F3's initial movement (two or three steps) was to 1B. He received the throw in a stationary position, no longer moving toward the bag.
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Old Tue Apr 28, 2009, 10:39am
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I made a post this morning in this thread. What happened to it?
Unaccountable censorship. Welcome to the club.
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Old Wed Apr 29, 2009, 07:09am
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Unaccountable censorship. Welcome to the club.
Unsupported accusation.

I don't see any deleted posts in this thread.

There was a thread where "flowerchild" made one of his usual asinine posts. Someone responded to it. Both were deleted.

If that was mbyron and this thread, that explains it.
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Old Wed Apr 29, 2009, 08:07am
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Unsupported accusation.

I don't see any deleted posts in this thread.

There was a thread where "flowerchild" made one of his usual asinine posts. Someone responded to it. Both were deleted.

If that was mbyron and this thread, that explains it.
My post was on topic and well-reasoned.
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Old Wed Apr 29, 2009, 09:34am
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Unsupported accusation.

I don't see any deleted posts in this thread.

There was a thread where "flowerchild" made one of his usual asinine posts. Someone responded to it. Both were deleted.

If that was mbyron and this thread, that explains it.
You always censor and refuse or fail to accord any poster the courtesy of simple moderation, or at least personal accountability for your censorship of their posts. No reason stated publicly, and no answer to any PM. Nothing.

Moderating a forum always causes less anger and frustration than unaccountable censorship. You should try it.
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Old Thu Apr 30, 2009, 08:41am
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Don't really see the problem with this play. It isn't a balk. See the Evans video. If F3 is breaking toward the bag and receives the ball 5 ft away he can easily apply a tag with the next step and in doing so is making a play. What is the problem?
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