Texas Brouhaha

[Kevin Finnerty]

Originally Posted by canadaump6

Then when a college field is remade with the money of a Major League ballplayer, we find out that he is a steroid-using cheater and scumbag.

Not every cheater is a scumbag, and not every MLB star is a cheater.

But major league millionaires give less back to charity and society around them than almost any millionaires in America.

[SanDiegoSteve]

Originally Posted by Kevin Finnerty

Not every cheater is a scumbag, and not every MLB star is a cheater.

True, but AScrod is both.

Originally Posted by Kevin Finnerty

But major league millionaires give less back to charity and society around them than almost any millionaires in America.

Also true.

[D-Man]

Originally Posted by SanDiegoSteve

True, but AScrod is both.

Also true.

An insult to a most delicious seafood.

D

[waltjp]

Originally Posted by D-Man

An insult to a most delicious seafood.

D

Not an ARod fan and not defending him -

Now, ask yourself. How many of your team's players are among the 100 names on the list with ARod's that were not leaked to the media?

[Kevin Finnerty]

And how many more were bright enough to take a substance that wasn't even being tested for in MLB's we-don't-really-want-to-end-$teroid-use testing strategy?

The 100-plus (the famed 5%-to-7%) are not all the ones who are cheaters, they're the ones who are dumb enough and uncool enough to get nabbed in the cursory testing program.

Bud $elig is the principal in this. Fay Vincent sounded the alarm in the early '90s, and he was summarily booted. You can't have a commissioner who stands in the way of profiteering! $elig's is shameful custody of the greatest game in the world.

Beyond that: A-Rod, Bonds and Clemens, three men who are at or near the top of the career earnings list--A-Rod ($198 million and counting) and Bonds ($188 million) are Nos. 1 & 2--all defrauded their way to the top. And for being lying slime, Bonds and Clemens could actually go to prison!

[ManInBlue]

We got a raise this year. $10 on Varsity games, JV didn't change. We normally do a JV/V DH - that will pay $95/100, regardless of gate fees (and all the schools around here charge a gate fee). A Varsity DH would be $125.

TASO or UIL or whoever is giving a good screwin' to the umps on this deal. In order for you to get close to our pay scale you'd have to get $1,500 in gate fees. What's the difference in a 5A (or 6 or 8 - whatever you've got) district game and a 2A long time rivalry to decide the district champ? None, other than the number of students and the attendance. So why are you being paid less for that "small" game?

Pretty bogus, JMHO

[MrUmpire]

There are two reasons for the situation in Texas.

1. Higher quality umpires display a willingness tol accept low pay.

2. When higher quality umpires tire of accepting low pay, administrators display a willingness to accept mediocre low quality umpiring.


No one, even in Texas, has placed a gun to the head of umpires and forced them to work fo lower pay.

[SanDiegoSteve]

Originally Posted by waltjp

Not an ARod fan and not defending him -

Now, ask yourself. How many of your team's players are among the 100 names on the list with ARod's that were not leaked to the media?

Who cares? I'm not saying ARod is scum just because he did steroids, or got caught. I say it because he only admitted it after he was forced to, denied it for years, and then tried to blame it on anyone but himself and made excuses instead of manning up and taking responsibility for his actions. And, hey, maybe an apology to all the fans he let down, especially all the kids who looked up to him as a hero.

He is trying to tell us that he didn't know what the injections were for. I get sick of superstar athletes treating us like we're a bunch of stupid hick rubes. Of course as a pro athlete, making millions of dollars with his instrument of a body, is going to know exactly every single thing that goes into it. "I didn't know" is a bunch of BS.

[CajunNewBlue]

Originally Posted by SanDiegoSteve

Who cares? I'm not saying ARod is scum just because he did steroids, or got caught. I say it because he only admitted it after he was forced to, denied it for years, and then tried to blame it on anyone but himself and made excuses instead of manning up and taking responsibility for his actions. And, hey, maybe an apology to all the fans he let down, especially all the kids who looked up to him as a hero.

He is trying to tell us that he didn't know what the injections were for. I get sick of superstar athletes treating us like we're a bunch of stupid hick rubes. Of course as a pro athlete, making millions of dollars with his instrument of a body, is going to know exactly every single thing that goes into it. "I didn't know" is a bunch of BS.

Hrmmm I could fully see a highly paid athlete asking his trainer, "hey dude, whats in that shot" and the trainer saying "dude, you don't wanna know" and the athlete going along with it , because they just AREN'T THAT SMART! and they think they have a alibi for NOT knowing. just my 2 cents.

[Kevin Finnerty]

Originally Posted by CajunNewBlue

Hrmmm I could fully see a highly paid athlete asking his trainer, "hey dude, whats in that shot" and the trainer saying "dude, you don't wanna know" and the athlete going along with it , because they just AREN'T THAT SMART! and they think they have a alibi for NOT knowing. just my 2 cents.

If you made this statement 12 to 14 years ago, I would say that there would have been many major leaguers that would fit that description. Not now.

[umpduck11]

Originally Posted by Kevin Finnerty

But major league millionaires give less back to charity and society around them than almost any millionaires in America.

I wonder where this information comes from. I'm not disagreeing with it, necessarily, I just don't know how accurate it is. Lots of people I know like to do their good deeds in the shadows, avoiding any pats on the back for doing what they felt was the right thing. Can we say that because we don't hear MLB players crowing about the charity they have helped, then that automatically proves they have done nothing ?

[tiger49]

Funny how people are saying that MLB clubs don't help at the lower level, yet 3 of the 4 biggest sponsors of amature baseball in Ontario have some connection to the MLB and the Toronto Blue Jays.

[MrUmpire]

Originally Posted by Kevin Finnerty

But major league millionaires give less back to charity and society around them than almost any millionaires in America.

As a group or individually?

Source please.

[Kevin Finnerty]

Originally Posted by MrUmpire

As a group or individually?

Source please.

A) Individually.

B) If you read what I wrote, I used the word "almost," which is the truth.

C) You work hard and make the sacrifices to get inside the game and get your own good sources. (I am not saying that I have ever been inside the game as an umpire.)

[MrUmpire]

Originally Posted by Kevin Finnerty

B) If you read what I wrote, I used the word "almost," which is the truth.

And this "truth" is based on what evidence? Do you or do you not have a source for this comment presented as a fact, or is it your opinion?