Infield fly not called

[TxUmp]

I saw this happen in a game I was watching a few years ago:

R1 & R2 less than 2 out. Batter hits a high pop fly behind home plate. Catcher overruns it and the ball falls untouched in foul territory behind the plate then trickles into fair territory. The catcher should have easily caught it, and it was a fair ball - so IFF, right? No call was made. The pitcher piched up the "foul ball" and play continued. What would you do in this situation?

[griff901c]

Originally Posted by TxUmp

I saw this happen in a game I was watching a few years ago:

R1 & R2 less than 2 out. Batter hits a high pop fly behind home plate. Catcher overruns it and the ball falls untouched in foul territory behind the plate then trickles into fair territory. The catcher should have easily caught it, and it was a fair ball - so IFF, right? No call was made. The pitcher piched up the "foul ball" and play continued. What would you do in this situation?

It's IFF.." if fair"..meaning in fair territory..right? Landing foul ( no IFF) and rolling fair...no IFF

griff

[johnnyg08]

Originally Posted by griff901c

It's IFF.." if fair"..meaning in fair territory..right? Landing foul ( no IFF) and rolling fair...no IFF

griff

the ball is nothing until it lands...if it lands in foul and rolls fair, it's no longer in flight and can't be a fly ball. play on, fair ball.

[johnnyg08]

you're right griff...my bad...did realize you were replying to a previous post.

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by griff901c

It's IFF.." if fair"..meaning in fair territory..right? Landing foul ( no IFF) and rolling fair...no IFF

griff

Until the ball is touched, or comes to rest, or goes beyond 1st/3rd, it's neither fair nor foul.

Landing foul and rolling fair (and then being touched...) will still result in an infield fly (if the other conditions are met).

[griff901c]

Originally Posted by bob jenkins

Until the ball is touched, or comes to rest, or goes beyond 1st/3rd, it's neither fair nor foul.

Landing foul and rolling fair (and then being touched...) will still result in an infield fly (if the other conditions are met).

I hate being wrong.....by my own verbage no less...

thanks

[johnnyg08]

Originally Posted by bob jenkins

Until the ball is touched, or comes to rest, or goes beyond 1st/3rd, it's neither fair nor foul.

Landing foul and rolling fair (and then being touched...) will still result in an infield fly (if the other conditions are met).

I got that one wrong too. Bob, can you explain that a bit further? I guess I don't understand how (assuming all other fair ball conditions are met) a ball that lands foul, legally rolls fair can still be ruled infield fly when touched. Where does that end? At some point, defense is going to have to "touch" the ball.

[SethPDX]

Originally Posted by johnnyg08

I got that one wrong too. Bob, can you explain that a bit further? I guess I don't understand how (assuming all other fair ball conditions are met) a ball that lands foul, legally rolls fair can still be ruled infield fly when touched. Where does that end? At some point, defense is going to have to "touch" the ball.

Consider a fly ball hit between the plate and 1B or 3B. Let's say an infielder was under the ball, ready to make a play on it, but misjudges it and it drops in foul territory without him touching it (And wind, weather, etc. was not a factor).

The ball then rolls into fair territory where he picks it up, making it a fair ball. Because it is a fair ball that could have been caught with ordinary effort, we have an infield fly.