Do you allow the appeal?

[JJ]

You make a good point about "let's wait and see" - it would behoove us to do just that. I'll bet that in the vast world of baseball this DOES happen to someone, and hopefully he'll be a poster and we can follow the trail of darts and flames all the way to his protest committee.

JJ

[jicecone]

I guess this may be a true case of

OBR9.01c "Each umpire has authority to rule on any point not specifically covered in these rules."

So as you can see, Its covered!!

[greymule]

I'll settle this. I just found one of those 8-ball fortune tellers in a closet.

Hold on. I have to read it the OP.

OK. "Does the run score?"

Here goes.

It says . . .

"Ask again later."

I'll let you guys know.

[Publius]

Not saying he's right, but it's the most workable interp I've read. FWIW, it validated part of what I said and repudiated part.

http://theumpirelife.com/messageboar...opic.php?t=123

If you accept that no retouch is allowed after a third out is made (I couldn't find a published source for that interp, but it "seems fair") it clears up the whole matter. If you don't...

I'm running with it.

[justanotherblue]

I'm surprised to see this one make it's way back. I was briefly believing the runner could retouch and be safe, however after more thought, no way, it's still a timing play, he missed the plate period. 4.09 states no run may score after the third out. The runners only hope is the defense missed his retouch of the plate and fail to appeal. His retouch is insignificant, it's after the third out.

[SAump]

Runner stealing 2nd, batter walked, runner decides to run by second without touching it to avoid possible injury.
Remember, he hasn't touched 2nd until after he was tagged out on the LF side of 2B.
Can the defense make a play on him or is he allowed to stay at second?

[UMP25]

He's immune from being declared out on a tag BEFORE he reaches second base. Once he touches or passes it, he's liable to be put out if tagged. Because he did reach second base--not touching it is irrelevant--if he proceeds beyond it he's out if tagged.