The Official Forum  

Go Back   The Official Forum > Baseball
run down & following runner run down & following runner
Register FAQ Community Calendar Today's Posts Search

Reply
Page 1 of 3 1 23
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Rate Thread Display Modes
  #1 (permalink)  
Old Sun May 27, 2007, 06:49pm
Official Forum Member
  
Join Date: Oct 2004
Posts: 95
run down & following runner
yesterday
runners on 2nd & 3rd
catcher throws down to 3rd with runner too far off base
run down between home and third begins
runner from second advances and is standing on third when runner in the run down is headed back to third. The third baseman, with the ball first tags following runner who is on third, and then tags runner before he reaches the base.
2 outs?
Why?
Why Not?
Any rule reference????????
Tell you after I see the responses what I called.
Reply With Quote
  #2 (permalink)  
Old Sun May 27, 2007, 07:08pm
Official Forum Member
  
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Winchester, VA
Posts: 458
Quote:
Originally Posted by btdt
yesterday
runners on 2nd & 3rd
catcher throws down to 3rd with runner too far off base
run down between home and third begins
runner from second advances and is standing on third when runner in the run down is headed back to third. The third baseman, with the ball first tags following runner who is on third, and then tags runner before he reaches the base.
2 outs?
Why?
Why Not?
Any rule reference????????
Tell you after I see the responses what I called.
1 out. Why? 'Cause only one runner was tagged off base.
If you called 2 out because R3 was still "entitled" to 3d, you screwed the pooch.
The rule about 2 runners occupying the same base only comes into play when they BOTH ACTUALLY ARE ON the same base, and then there is only ONE out: namely the following runner.
Reply With Quote
  #3 (permalink)  
Old Sun May 27, 2007, 07:31pm
Official Forum Member
  
Join Date: Apr 2005
Posts: 2,057
Send a message via Yahoo to UmpJM
Cool
btdt,

I can't add anything to what cbfoulds said, except that he's right.

R2 safe, R3 out.

JM
__________________
Finally, be courteous, impartial and firm, and so compel respect from all.
Reply With Quote
  #4 (permalink)  
Old Sun May 27, 2007, 07:33pm
Official Forum Member
  
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: USA
Posts: 1,577
1 out. Why? 'Cause maybe you're thinking R2 is forced off 3B and back to 2B and so he isn't entitled to occupy 3B when tagged, but he is and only one runner was tagged off base.
Reply With Quote
  #5 (permalink)  
Old Sun May 27, 2007, 10:11pm
Official Forum Member
  
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: New England, Home of the Brave!
Posts: 312
Send a message via AIM to Rcichon
Quote:
Originally Posted by btdt
....clipped....
runners on 2nd & 3rd
catcher throws down to 3rd with runner too far off base
run down between home and third begins
runner from second advances and is standing on third when runner in the run down is headed back to third. The third baseman, with the ball first tags following runner who is on third, and then tags runner before he reaches the base.

2 outs?
No
Quote:
Originally Posted by btdt
Why?
R2 is safe at 3 now and is the ONLY runner on that base.
Quote:
Originally Posted by btdt
Why Not?
R3 is not on 3rd anymore.
Quote:
Originally Posted by btdt
Any rule reference????????
7.08[c] (in the abstract).
Quote:
Originally Posted by btdt
Tell you after I see the responses what I called.
Why? Getting flamed is a learning experience!
__________________
Strikes are great.
Outs are better.
Reply With Quote
  #6 (permalink)  
Old Sun May 27, 2007, 10:49pm
Official Forum Member
  
Join Date: Feb 2002
Posts: 1,458
Why the mystery? It's an easy call.

What are the odds of this guy calling something different, and never coming back?
Reply With Quote
  #7 (permalink)  
Old Mon May 28, 2007, 06:43am
Official Forum Member
  
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Winchester, VA
Posts: 458
Quote:
Originally Posted by kylejt
Why the mystery? It's an easy call.

What are the odds of this guy calling something different, and never coming back?
At this point, I'd guess - very good.
Reply With Quote
  #8 (permalink)  
Old Mon May 28, 2007, 10:45am
Official Forum Member
  
Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: Birmingham, Alabama
Posts: 3,100
btdt, are you confusing the play in which the runner in a rundown between 3B and home commits interference, and the following runner who has advanced to 3B must return to 2B?
__________________
greymule
More whiskey—and fresh horses for my men!
Roll Tide!
Reply With Quote
  #9 (permalink)  
Old Mon May 28, 2007, 05:23pm
Official Forum Member
  
Join Date: May 2004
Posts: 1,577
Quote:
Originally Posted by cbfoulds
At this point, I'd guess - very good.

Or, he'll say he called whatever the majority opinion here was
Reply With Quote
  #10 (permalink)  
Old Mon May 28, 2007, 05:40pm
Official Forum Member
  
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Greater Birmingham, Alabama
Posts: 611
Send a message via Yahoo to umpduck11
Quote:
Originally Posted by LMan
Or, he'll say he called whatever the majority opinion here was
He should have written down what he called, sealed it in an email, and opened it for us later.....
__________________
All generalizations are bad. - R.H. Grenier
Reply With Quote
  #11 (permalink)  
Old Mon May 28, 2007, 05:42pm
Official Forum Member
  
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Winchester, VA
Posts: 458
Quote:
Originally Posted by LMan
Or, he'll say he called whatever the majority opinion here was
I'm REALLY hoping there is no "minority view" on this one: which is what makes me think the the OP'er got it wrong. Why post something this obvious, unless you think you were very clever in "finding" an obscure rule application with an unusual outcome?
We'll see, I guess, he's not been back to drop the other shoe yet.......
Reply With Quote
  #12 (permalink)  
Old Mon May 28, 2007, 05:44pm
Archaic Power Monger
  
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Houston, TX
Posts: 5,983
Quote:
Originally Posted by cbfoulds
I'm REALLY hoping there is no "minority view" on this one: which is what makes me think the the OP'er got it wrong. Why post something this obvious, unless you think you were very clever in "finding" an obscure rule application with an unusual outcome?
We'll see, I guess, he's not been back to drop the other shoe yet.......
I bet we'll see the phrase "Travesty of the game" before this thread is through...
Reply With Quote
  #13 (permalink)  
Old Mon May 28, 2007, 05:49pm
Official Forum Member
  
Join Date: May 2004
Posts: 1,577
Quote:
Originally Posted by Welpe
I bet we'll see the phrase "Travesty of the game" before this thread is through...

is that the corollary to the rule on 'how many posts in a thread before the word 'Hitler' is used?'
Reply With Quote
  #14 (permalink)  
Old Tue May 29, 2007, 12:49am
Senior Member
  
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Lakeside, California
Posts: 6,724
Hitler just called from his bunker and said it was a total travesty of the game, and he's kicking Eva Braun out of the bunker.


I had post #14 in the pool...
__________________
Matthew 15:14, 1 Corinthians 1:23-25
Reply With Quote
  #15 (permalink)  
Old Tue May 29, 2007, 02:09am
Archaic Power Monger
  
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Houston, TX
Posts: 5,983
Quote:
Originally Posted by SanDiegoSteve
Hitler just called from his bunker and said it was a total travesty of the game, and he's kicking Eva Braun out of the bunker.


I had post #14 in the pool...
Hey isn't that a violation of the 18th Amendment?
__________________
Even if you’re on the right track, you’ll get run over if you just sit there. - Will Rogers
Last edited by Welpe; Tue May 29, 2007 at 02:15am.
Reply With Quote
Reply
Page 1 of 3 1 23

Bookmarks

« Previous Thread | Next Thread »

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts
BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Pinch runner for a courtesy runner? jwwashburn Softball 17 Wed May 02, 2007 01:43pm
Runner hit by batted ball, scoring runner, batter wfwbb Baseball 12 Sat Jul 17, 2004 03:12pm
Runner helping other runner BMGregory Baseball 1 Thu May 08, 2003 03:43pm
Bratter-Runner VS Runner whiskers_ump Softball 14 Sun Apr 28, 2002 07:04pm
runner passing another runner shipwreck Softball 2 Sun Apr 07, 2002 11:12am


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 12:18pm.

The Official Forum - Archive - Top


Search Engine Friendly URLs by vBSEO 3.3.0 RC1