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Old Thu Apr 19, 2007, 06:31pm
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Betcha people were called sissies for wearing batting helmets. Should we ban batting helmets, or make them optional?

Bobby Layne called football players sissies for wearing face guards.

Jacques Plante got called a sissy for wearing a goalie mask.

Hockey players used to think it was sissy to wear a helmet. Should we let them take them off?

Heck, players got called sissies for using fielding gloves. The rules makers had to add the " may wear a glove" rules to declare it legal.
Come on, Rich - you know what I am getting at!
This isn't LL baseball anymore. Hell, if someone wants to wear a face shield, fine but don't mandate it!
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Old Thu Apr 19, 2007, 07:31pm
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Baby boomers meddling again. If the incidence is less than one half of one percent or less as stated earlier, let the player decide. Statistically insignificant number IMHO. Is this becoming baby ball or baseball. If the FED wants to take a significant course of action, then increase the penalty for throwing at a batter when the head is involved. Say...five game suspension for the pitcher and three games for the coach. And let me warn both benches when warnings need to be given. If you can't tell the difference between a high hard fastball with intent or a poorly thrown curveball, you shouldn't be doing that level.
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Old Fri Apr 20, 2007, 01:33am
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Baby boomers meddling again.
I'm not sure my generation is responsible for this. I would more likely suspect Gen Xers, or whatever the generation that invented this "Time Out" crap as a deterrent to child misbehavior. It's the modern free-to-be-you-and-me-hug-a-tree-Cumbaya-singing-Volvo-driving-soccer-mom, and as Denny Crane would say, "mamby-pamby" bunch that is responsible for this movement.
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Old Fri Apr 20, 2007, 12:23pm
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I'm not sure my generation is responsible for this. I would more likely suspect Gen Xers, or whatever the generation that invented this "Time Out" crap as a deterrent to child misbehavior. It's the modern free-to-be-you-and-me-hug-a-tree-Cumbaya-singing-Volvo-driving-soccer-mom, and as Denny Crane would say, "mamby-pamby" bunch that is responsible for this movement.

LOL... Steve, I too am a baby boomer, I would have to agree, it's those that just don't get it. You have to be responsible for your actions, not sit along the side lines with a lawyer waiting for the chance to pounce. As for the time outer's, that would be baby boomer Dr. Spock. From what I've seen, I would have to say, it doesn't work. Now my dad's belt... that worked very well!
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Old Fri Apr 20, 2007, 12:36pm
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As for the time outer's, that would be baby boomer Dr. Spock. From what I've seen, I would have to say, it doesn't work. Now my dad's belt... that worked very well!
What a load.

First, Dr. Benjamin Spock was not a baby boomer. He was born May 2, 1903, forty some years before the beginning of the "baby boom".

Second, most of the things that he was blamed for were actually created by his critics who exaggerated his message and ideas.

Dr. Spocks primary message was to mothers: "you know more than you think you do."

His secondary message was that children need affection and should be treated as individuals. He did not dismiss the need for discipline, rather he suggested that it be balanced with positive attention. He disproved the notion that picking up a crying baby would, by itself, create a spoild child.

Unfortunately, what most people today know of Dr. Spock comes from critics repeating handed down myths instead of from reading his work.
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Old Fri Apr 20, 2007, 12:51pm
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Unfortunately, what most people today know of Dr. Spock comes from critics repeating handed down myths instead of from reading his work.

That's quite true. For some reason, many people think that Dr. Spock advocated a lenient, touchy-feely approach to child-rearing. He did not by any means. It might be that because of his opposition to the Vietnam war, as well as the fact that many kids seemed out of control, people assumed that he was some sort of ultra-liberal airhead. So Dr. Spock has wrongly become symbolic of ideas with which he would certainly disagree.
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Old Fri Apr 20, 2007, 08:50pm
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thanks guys, I'll remember that. I stand corrected.
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Old Thu Apr 19, 2007, 08:00pm
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Come on, Rich - you know what I am getting at!
This isn't LL baseball anymore. Hell, if someone wants to wear a face shield, fine but don't mandate it!

So FED adds a rule (or ruling) that ALLOWS the use of face guards and somehow it becomes a rumor that it's going to be mandated - and everyone goes nuts.
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Old Thu Apr 19, 2007, 10:02pm
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Old Thu Apr 19, 2007, 10:09pm
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Let's all ignore the practical

They play baseball in Japan with a rubber version of our baseball. It is the closest thing we have to a real (simulated) synthetic baseball. It is cheaper by the dozen and it doesn't deteriorate as quickly as a rawhide covered baseball. Saving a school some money is a factor.

The main reason it is used to play high school baseball in Japan is safety. Ever heard of a Japanese baseball breaking a car windshield? Young pitchers develop effectively because they are not encourage to throw curveballs. Talk about saving some money on real baseball medical bills. The focus is were it is suppose to be, on their young arms and fundamentals of the game. After high school, the kids make the switch over to the real thing. There is no emotional debate over the safety of metal or wood bats over there.

Is FED consider more expensive helmet/facemask requirements without first considering the adoption of a rubber baseball? They never blink an eye wasting money on the wrong equipment. Has anyone ever been killed by a rubber baseball? That fact alone makes owning the new $50 allstar 2200 pitcher's titanium helmet/mask combo a rather silly idea. They seem to be ignoring the real scientific evidence. I guess borrowing a good Japanese idea isn't very popular either. Lah me, toy-ota.

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