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Old Sat Mar 24, 2007, 04:50pm
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HSM throat guard

Today we held a clinic at the high school, and we had done plate work. Afterwards, I had two umpires make the following comment about my HSM.

"If we have the kids wear throat protectors, we should wear them too."

Funny, the person who said that wears a throat guard on his HSM, and another person who didn't comment on that was wearing an HSM with a throat guard as well.

I can see the need on a standard mask (I use a standard with a throat guard as I have both types), but on an HSM it is uncessary and looks horrible. In addition, I cannot even wear one without it being annoying to me.

What do you think about wearing one with an HSM? I vote no.

Of all umpires there, only 2 made this comment, as well as another who thinks it is a "rule" we have to wear them.

On a positive note: I was told my timing behind the plate was very good as well as my mechanics. We would have gone and done more feild work, but the fields were muddy.
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Old Sat Mar 24, 2007, 09:37pm
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Today we held a clinic at the high school, and we had done plate work. Afterwards, I had two umpires make the following comment about my HSM.

"If we have the kids wear throat protectors, we should wear them too."

Funny, the person who said that wears a throat guard on his HSM, and another person who didn't comment on that was wearing an HSM with a throat guard as well.

I can see the need on a standard mask (I use a standard with a throat guard as I have both types), but on an HSM it is uncessary and looks horrible. In addition, I cannot even wear one without it being annoying to me.

What do you think about wearing one with an HSM? I vote no.

Of all umpires there, only 2 made this comment, as well as another who thinks it is a "rule" we have to wear them.

On a positive note: I was told my timing behind the plate was very good as well as my mechanics. We would have gone and done more feild work, but the fields were muddy.
I think you've answered your own question, if you don't like it, don't wear it. For the record, I wore one my first year of umpiring because I thought it looked cool. I found it to be annoying so I stopped. I haven't worn one since.

As far as "required" equiptment, I have not been involved with LL in quite a few years, but had never heard of a throat guard required for the umpire.

As far as the guys who say, "If we have the kids wear throat protectors, we should wear them too," do they wear chest protectors with the flap in front or batting helmets? If they require the kids to wear them...
That's an excuse for them attaching a throat guard to an HSM IMO.
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Old Sat Mar 24, 2007, 11:16pm
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I do not wish to sound stupid, but what is a HSM?

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Old Sun Mar 25, 2007, 12:03am
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Hockey style mask, I'd guess.
The point of an HSM is that you wouldn't need a guard.
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Old Sun Mar 25, 2007, 12:09am
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I do not wish to sound stupid, but what is a HSM?

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Old Sun Mar 25, 2007, 09:41am
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Also I "hear" AK may push the issue to have it made mandatory as part of the umpires equipment.

Would I be correct in saying that you should NOT get hit in the throat if you have proper stance? (exception to this would be the scissors)
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Old Sun Mar 25, 2007, 11:28am
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Hockey style mask, I'd guess.
The point of an HSM is that you wouldn't need a guard.
What?

I'd guess you'd have to tell all the hockey goalies to remove their throat protectors then.
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Old Sun Mar 25, 2007, 01:13pm
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Within Little League, catchers are required to wear a "dangling" throat protector on all mask types and at all levels of ball.
I have not read anywhere within LL text that a PU should (or must) wear a throat protector on their mask.
I wear a standard mask which has the "extended" throat protector (part of the mask) without an "additional" throat protector.
To each their own.

BTW: "LLPA13UmpDan" where did you "hear" that AK might push to have the additional throat protectors mandatory for LL umpires?

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This is one of LL's little gems of a rule. I suppose you can never go overboard as far as safetly is concerned though.
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Old Tue Mar 27, 2007, 07:49am
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This is one of LL's little gems of a rule. I suppose you can never go overboard as far as safetly is concerned though.
Dixie has the same rule for it 12 year and under leagues.
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Old Tue Mar 27, 2007, 08:55am
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While I wear a standard mask with a built in throat guard, I still attach a dangling throat guard to be on the safe side.
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Old Tue Mar 27, 2007, 09:02am
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This is one of LL's little gems of a rule. I suppose you can never go overboard as far as safetly is concerned though.
Let's wrap them all in a bubble and never let them leave the house.
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Old Tue Mar 27, 2007, 06:52pm
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BTW: "LLPA13UmpDan" where did you "hear" that AK might push to have the additional throat protectors mandatory for LL umpires?

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LLPA13DanUmp: Any updated info?
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Old Wed Mar 28, 2007, 02:43pm
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Sam,

I hear that as a rumor from my UIC. I hear there has been some discussion about it. Only a RUMOR but I wouldn't be surprised if it really is true.

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Sam,

I hear that as a rumor from my UIC. I hear there has been some discussion about it. Only a RUMOR but I wouldn't be surprized if it really is true.
I would be surprized. I'll send Andy an e-mail and see what he has to say.


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