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Old Fri Mar 02, 2007, 12:57am
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Do the math, ball hit into gap

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This is a basic first to third situation. PU should take the play at third. Unless this is a new "advanced mechanic" being taught at SA's clinic.
The coach isn't paid to instruct umpires. He's paid to keep runners from being thrown out at 3B. He should do his job well.

OP did not state entire story, HTBT. One could only imagine where the PU was at the time. R1 should have been standing UP safely at 3B on any ball hit into the gap 95% of the time, if not trying to score. Suggests PU stayed HOME for possible play at the plate. The call at 3B then belongs to BU's unless PU calls him OFF of it.

PU hustling back to cover the plate presents about as difficult a challenge as BU going to 3B first, and then to 2B. One of them isn't tired and lugging around equipment either. PRO guys believe the PU's primary responsibility is at the PLATE. It looks bad if PU goes out toward 3B and then comes hustling back to the plate.

Not to be confused, it is much easier for the BU to take the play into 3B from straight LF and straight CF. PU taking the play at 3B is the advanced mechanic written in the manuals and being taught in the clinics. This point has already been stated several times. Young guns have the edge in 2-man. Advised to do whatever association/level dictates.

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Old Fri Mar 02, 2007, 10:41am
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The coach isn't paid to instruct umpires. He's paid to keep runners from being thrown out at 3B. He should do his job well.

OP did not state entire story, HTBT. One could only imagine where the PU was at the time. R1 should have been standing UP safely at 3B on any ball hit into the gap 95% of the time, if not trying to score. Suggests PU stayed HOME for possible play at the plate. The call at 3B then belongs to BU's unless PU calls him OFF of it.

PU hustling back to cover the plate presents about as difficult a challenge as BU going to 3B first, and then to 2B. One of them isn't tired and lugging around equipment either. PRO guys believe the PU's primary responsibility is at the PLATE. It looks bad if PU goes out toward 3B and then comes hustling back to the plate.

Not to be confused, it is much easier for the BU to take the play into 3B from straight LF and straight CF. PU taking the play at 3B is the advanced mechanic written in the manuals and being taught in the clinics. This point has already been stated several times. Young guns have the edge in 2-man. Advised to do whatever association/level dictates.
Sorry to disagree with you SA but IT IS the plate guys play at third unless he deems the runner from first is going to score relatively easily, or at least make it to third easily. The and only then should he tell his partner, " I am staying home!" Other than that he need to go toward third. And this is the way the pros do it.
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Old Fri Mar 02, 2007, 10:53am
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Sorry to disagree with you SA but IT IS the plate guys play at third unless he deems the runner from first is going to score relatively easily, or at least make it to third easily. The and only then should he tell his partner, " I am staying home!" Other than that he need to go toward third. And this is the way the pros do it.
In SA's defense, I did come across an old mechanics manual hermetically sealed in a mayonaise jar that indicates the call belongs to BU "if the pitch was a rising fastball or a gyroball."

IOW, BU never has this call.
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Old Fri Mar 02, 2007, 11:23am
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In SA's defense, I did come across an old mechanics manual hermetically sealed in a mayonaise jar that indicates the call belongs to BU "if the pitch was a rising fastball or a gyroball."

IOW, BU never has this call.
that's funny!

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Old Fri Mar 02, 2007, 07:14pm
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In SA's defense, I did come across an old mechanics manual hermetically sealed in a mayonaise jar that indicates the call belongs to BU "if the pitch was a rising fastball or a gyroball."

IOW, BU never has this call.
Hey all,

But did you find it on Funk and Wagnall's porch?????

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Old Fri Mar 02, 2007, 11:23pm
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Hey all,

But did you find it on Funk and Wagnall's porch?????

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Old Sat Mar 03, 2007, 01:32am
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Hey all,

Well, THAT settles THAT!!!!

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Old Sat Mar 03, 2007, 05:12pm
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Carnack says it was PU's call.
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