Wild Pitch and Balk

[tibear]

Originally Posted by bob jenkins

The balk is *ignored* for the runner (since he advanced a base; thus the out stands), but *enforced* for the batter (the pitch is ignored and the batter remains with a 2-2 count)

So you're saying the balk is ignored AND enforced on the same play. That's got to be fun to explain to the coaches!!!

Just to reinforce:

Situation: R1 and R3. Wild pitch with balk call. R1 takes second and rounds thinking about stealing third. R1 notices that R3 had a brain fart and is still standing on third. R1 is then thrown out going back to second.

In this situation, because R3 never advanced a base, the balk is enforced. The ball is dead, R3 is awarded home and R1 is awarded second. Everyone is safe.

OR

Because it is a wild pitch, the Approved Ruling section kicks in and: Ball is dead, R3 is awarded home and because R1 had advanced past his awarded base the out stands.

Which result is correct??

[ozzy6900]

Originally Posted by tibear

So you're saying the balk is ignored AND enforced on the same play. That's got to be fun to explain to the coaches!!!

STOP! You will get into trouble if you explain it that way!

In your first scenario, you started with R1, correct? If there is a balk, R1 is Protected only to second base. If R1 goes beyond second, he is on his own.

Now, if you explain it that way to a coach, he will understand you. More importantly, if you remember it that way, you will apply the rule correctly in any situation! Simply remember where the runner started and how far he is protected. The rest is academic.

[tibear]

Originally Posted by ozzy6900

STOP! You will get into trouble if you explain it that way!

In your first scenario, you started with R1, correct? If there is a balk, R1 is Protected only to second base. If R1 goes beyond second, he is on his own.

Now, if you explain it that way to a coach, he will understand you. More importantly, if you remember it that way, you will apply the rule correctly in any situation! Simply remember where the runner started and how far he is protected. The rest is academic.

So infact your inforcing the balk for both runner AND batter but indicating the dead ball situation doesn't apply until the play is dead. Since R1 choose to proceed past his awarded base he is out.

What about the second situation that I presented with R1 and R3??

If I was to take a stab using the original situation as a basis: R3 is awarded home and R1 is out because he proceed past his awarded base.

[Durham]

If you use the term "At his own risk" you will becovered and potentially never forget the rule.

[LMan]

Originally Posted by tibear

In this situation, because R3 and the BR never advanced a base, the balk is enforced. The ball is dead, R3 is awarded home and R1 is awarded second. Everyone is safe.

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