Coach Riding Partner?

[LMan]

Ok, Im getting the picture.


He's arguing judgment calls. That's a no-no. If he's really out there 3-5 minutes at a time, then you are right, this is a game-management issue now. That's nuts. I bet the folks in the stands just loved that

I'd go up and break these prayer-meetings up with "Coach, that's how he saw it, we have a game to play, let's play ball." That's his warning.

Tell your BU that now he can eject later if it continues.

[ctblu40]

I thought about that LMAN, I just didn't want to step on my partners toes or give the appearence that he couldn't handle himself on the field. That is defintley what I should've done though.

Thanks

[David B]

Originally Posted by ctblu40

I thought about that LMAN, I just didn't want to step on my partners toes or give the appearence that he couldn't handle himself on the field. That is defintley what I should've done though.

Thanks

Well by allowing the coach to argue for 3-5 minutes on a judgement call, your BU already has given the appearance that he "can't" handle himself.

Hey its summer ball, help the young guy out. I would quicklly approach the situation and let the coach know that we are fixing to play ball.

Believe me, everyone in the stands already knows whats happening. So by being a good umpire we can help the young umpire.

If the coach wants to continue then now its with "me" and not my young partner.

We all were there one time (a beginner) and I learned the hard way but I sure did appreciate the times that my mentors got me "out of the frying pan".

Then after the game, I would talk with my young umpire on the proper way to handle the situtation etc.,

[ctblu40]

[QUOTE=David B]Well by allowing the coach to argue for 3-5 minutes on a judgement call, your BU already has given the appearance that he "can't" handle himself.
QUOTE]

Point well taken, I never thought of that...

[mbyron]

A helpful tip that was passed on to me for judging when to eject: the coach wants to leave whenever he uses one of the three P's: personal ("you suck", or anything bad about you personally, as opposed to the call), profane, or prolonged.

With arguing, whining, weaseling, and chirping, I generally give a warning (like "that's enough, let's play ball"), and after that, it's prolonged. The other P's are pretty easy to spot. Any ejection on these grounds is pretty easy to defend to assignors, committees, TD's, and the like.

[bluezebra]

Originally Posted by ctblu40

I thought about that LMAN, I just didn't want to step on my partners toes or give the appearence that he couldn't handle himself on the field. That is defintley what I should've done though.

Thanks

As PU, you're the UIC for that game. Set that coach straight.

Bob

[waltjp]

I had a similar situation in a game a couple of years back. My partner, the PU was relatively inexperienced and the managers from both sides were riding him hard from the first inning. After about 3 innings of this nonsense I came in to have a word with him between innings.

We talked about what was and wasn't acceptable in terms of the coach's behavior and I thought that we had well crossed over the line of what's acceptable. I also told him to put an end to it by telling the coach that he's had enough and it was time to play the game.

I also told him that I would warn the next coach and would follow with an ejection if needed but that it would earn him a lot more respect if he was the one who handled it. Of course, the coaches were on him again during the next inning and I ended up dumping one of them.

I don't like to fish in someone else's pond but this was a situation where some semblance of order needed to be restored.

We talked about it a bit more after the game. I told him that he'll never earn any respect from the coaches or players if he allows himself to get berated and walked all over during a game - especially if he allows his partners to 'protect' him.