Sleeves, etc '15-'16

[letemplay]

Sorry, I haven't been on in awhile, do not have '15-'16 books yet, so before posting did a search on this subject, finding the last discussion of the topic was last May, ending in a disagreement between two posters that resulted in a closed thread. Not wanting to start that up again, but now that season is underway, there seems to be (as usual) disagreement in our area over this still. As I understand it, was the final interp that headbands or wristbands must be black, white, or beige, but must also be ALL same color among same team members? And...that if leg or arm sleeves or compression shorts are worn they must also match the headbands or wristbands among teammates? Was it decided that if NO head or wrist bands are worn that then the compression items must still conform to the matching color rule? Is there any language stating ANY of these items (other than an undershirt of course) must match the predominant color of the uniform? Could a team wearing all white unis have kids with black knee or arm sleeves?

[ODog]

EVERYTHING (sleeves, bands) must be black, white, beige or the predominant color of the uniform.

EVERYTHING (sleeves, bands) must be the same color for all team members.

The items (bands, sleeves), however, do not need to match the predominant color of the uniform. They just need to match each other, for all team members, and be one of the potential four colors listed above.

Hope you get your books soon!

[zm1283]

Originally Posted by ODog

EVERYTHING (sleeves, bands) must be black, white, beige or the predominant color of the uniform.

EVERYTHING (sleeves, bands) must be the same color for all team members.

The items (bands, sleeves), however, do not need to match the predominant color of the uniform. They just need to match each other, for all team members, and be one of the potential four colors listed above.

Hope you get your books soon!

Yes, they do. All items have to be the same color for all team members and must be white, black, beige, or the predominate color of the jersey being worn. I'm confused though because your first sentence says they have to be the predominate color of the uniform.

On a side rant: Why can't they just settle on a headband/wristband/sleeve rule and stick with it? Why the constant update to the rule EVERY year? The headband rule has actually gotten more strict, since you used to be able to wear headbands that were any school color. Now they have to match the jersey color along with the other items. It's like the committee has nothing else to do so they decide "Hey lets tinker with the headband/sleeve rule again this year for the fun of it".

[hoopsaddict]

Originally Posted by zm1283

Yes, they do. All items have to be the same color for all team members and must be white, black, beige, or the predominate color of the jersey being worn. I'm confused though because your first sentence says they have to be the predominate color of the uniform.

On a side rant: Why can't they just settle on a headband/wristband/sleeve rule and stick with it? Why the constant update to the rule EVERY year? The headband rule has actually gotten more strict, since you used to be able to wear headbands that were any school color. Now they have to match the jersey color along with the other items. It's like the committee has nothing else to do so they decide "Hey lets tinker with the headband/sleeve rule again this year for the fun of it".

School color is not easily defined for every official walking into a gym to know the official school colors of every school they work.

[letemplay]

Crap, just when I was going to thank you for this clarification, it appears there's still a difference of opinion. Do they or do they NOT have to match the predominate uniform color?

[BEAREF]

Originally Posted by letemplay

Crap, just when I was going to thank you for this clarification, it appears there's still a difference of opinion. Do they or do they NOT have to match the predominate uniform color?

They need to be white, black or beige... If they are any other color than those three it needs to be the predominate color of the jersey.

In my opinion the rule is very easy to understand.

[OKREF]

Headbands, sleeves, wristbands, must be black, white, beige, or the predominate color of the uniform, Headbands, sleeves, wristbands, must be the same color, and all team members must match.

You may not have white sleeves on legs and black headbands. I don't get why this is so hard to understand.

[JetMetFan]

Originally Posted by ODog

The items (bands, sleeves), however, do not need to match the predominant color of the uniform. They just need to match each other, for all team members, and be one of the potential four colors listed above.

Originally Posted by zm1283

Yes, they do. All items have to be the same color for all team members and must be white, black, beige, or the predominate color of the jersey being worn. I'm confused though because your first sentence says they have to be the predominate color of the uniform.

They don't have to be the predominant color of the jersey, however they can be the predominant color of the jersey...

3-5-3c All sleeves/tights shall be the same solid color and must be the same color as any headband or wristband worn.

3-5-4a Headbands and wristbands shall be black, white, beige or the predominant color of the jersey and the same color for each item and all participants. They must be the same color as any sleeve/tights worn.

[bob jenkins]

Tshirts -- must match the jersey.

All other items (headbands, wrist bands, arm sleeves, leg sleeves) -- must be white, black, beige or jersey color; all must match for all players (on a team)

[crosscountry55]

Not to kill the mood, but it's important to note (I think) that there are no color restrictions on knee braces (not to be confused with leg compression sleeves). Same lack of uniformity policy as for shoes and socks.


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[Freddy]

Originally Posted by crosscountry55

Not to kill the mood, but...there are no color restrictions on knee braces...

Another mood killer not mentioned thus far on this thread: Compression Shorts.
They're under the same umbrella as undershirts -- must be same color as jersey.
Why they made compression shorts different than all the other matching items is beyond me.

I reserve the right to be wrong

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by Freddy

Another mood killer not mentioned thus far on this thread: Compression Shorts.
They're under the same umbrella as undershirts -- must be same color as jersey.
Why they made compression shorts different than all the other matching items is beyond me.

I reserve the right to be wrong

You might want to recheck that under 3-5-3b.

From last year's book (it changed slightly this year but I don't have that in an easily copy/paste form yet).

ART. 3 . . . Arm sleeves, knee sleeves, lower leg sleeves and tights are permissible:
a. Anything worn on the arm and/or leg is a sleeve, except a knee brace, and shall meet the color restrictions.
b. The sleeves/tights shall be black, white, beige or the predominant color of the uniform and the same color sleeves/tights shall be worn by teammates.
c. All sleeves/tights shall be the same solid color.
d. Meet the logo requirements in 3-6.

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by Camron Rust

You might want to recheck that under 3-5-3b.

From last year's book (it changed slightly this year but I don't have that in an easily copy/paste form yet).

Compression shorts (covered under 3-5-7) are not the same as tights (3-5-3).

The issue of how you determine one from the other has been raised (without resolution, afaik) several times on these forums

Frankly, if I see it, it's a tight/sleeve. If I don't, I don't care what color it is.

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by bob jenkins

Compression shorts ... tights ... The issue of how you determine one from the other has been raised several times on these forums

Best I can tell, if it's on the lower leg, or the knee (not a brace) it's tights. If it's on then upper leg, it's compression shorts. If it goes the way from the waist to the foot, it's probably tights.

But my statement above seems to be contradicted by 3-5-3-A: Anything worn on the arm and/or leg is a sleeve ... and shall meet the color restrictions.

Silly NFHS monkeys.

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by bob jenkins

Compression shorts (covered under 3-5-7) are not the same as tights (3-5-3).

The issue of how you determine one from the other has been raised (without resolution, afaik) several times on these forums

Frankly, if I see it, it's a tight/sleeve. If I don't, I don't care what color it is.

Exactly!