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Old Mon Sep 08, 2003, 03:02pm
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These questions were posted on a "local" internet softball board by a coach (yeah, I know - local internet - an oxymoron, but the regulars there are about 90% from a 3 state area), along with answers that supposedly came from the state ASA UIC.

I think two of the five answers are incorrect. Here are the questions & answers the coach posted & my answers.

I'm interested in comments, esp. on Q4 & Q5...

Questions are in regard to R1 on 3rd at the start of the pitch. ASA 10U fast pitch.

Q1... If pickoff attempt from catcher or pitcher, can runner be put out, if off base?
A....yes
Agreed.

Q2... If pickoff attempt goes out of play, is runner awarded home?
A... yes
Agreed.

Q3...If runner breaks for home on other than hit or BB/HBP with bases full, can she be tagged out?
A... yes
Agreed.

Q4... If said runner crosses home, can she be tagged out?
A... yes, the runner must trace her steps back to 3rd and can be put out while trying to get back. No run counts
Agree with the no run counts part. Disagree that the runner must trace her steps back to 3rd. However, if she does and is tagged between home and third, then she is out. Also, she would not be out if tagged after touching home while still on the playing field.

Q5... If said runner goes out of play into dugout after crossing home, what is the ruling?
A... Runner is out of play and declared out, no run counts.
Disagree. After play stops, runner is returned by the umpire to 3rd. No run scores, player is not out.

I know the state UIC personally, and will not contradict him directly on the board, however, I did post an uncommented quote from the Case Book (play 8.4-7), which leaves just enough wiggle room with it's unstated details. I've sent the UIC an email with my comments, above.

We'll see. Meanwhile - comments?
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