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Originally posted by Dakota
These questions were posted on a "local" internet softball board by a coach (yeah, I know - local internet - an oxymoron, but the regulars there are about 90% from a 3 state area), along with answers that supposedly came from the state ASA UIC.
I think two of the five answers are incorrect. Here are the questions & answers the coach posted & my answers.
I'm interested in comments, esp. on Q4 & Q5...
Questions are in regard to R1 on 3rd at the start of the pitch. ASA 10U fast pitch.
Q1... If pickoff attempt from catcher or pitcher, can runner be put out, if off base?
A....yes Agreed.
Q2... If pickoff attempt goes out of play, is runner awarded home?
A... yes Agreed.
Q3...If runner breaks for home on other than hit or BB/HBP with bases full, can she be tagged out?
A... yes Agreed.
Q4... If said runner crosses home, can she be tagged out?
A... yes, the runner must trace her steps back to 3rd and can be put out while trying to get back. No run counts Agree with the no run counts part. Disagree that the runner must trace her steps back to 3rd. However, if she does and is tagged between home and third, then she is out. Also, she would not be out if tagged after touching home while still on the playing field.
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I understand the "trace her steps back to 3rd" as it applies to retouching a missed base or base left too soon, but not in this circumstance. I, too, do not understand how a runner who has crossed the plate (assuming she touched the plate) can still be in jeopardy.
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Q5... If said runner goes out of play into dugout after crossing home, what is the ruling?
A... Runner is out of play and declared out, no run counts. Disagree. After play stops, runner is returned by the umpire to 3rd. No run scores, player is not out.
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Same as above. I do not understand how a runner who has crossed the plate (assuming she touched the plate) can still be in jeopardy.
Speaking 10U JO ball.
Rule 8.4.H.1 notes that when a runner advances farther than permitted, she may still be put out while not in contact with a base. Same rule then states, "A runner cannot be put out while in sole contact with a base." Since a runner who has scored is not required to hold the base, I would have to think the quoted sentence would equally apply to those who have completed the four-base circuit.
Rule 8.4.H.2 specifically notes that when all play ceases, a runner who has advanced farther then permitted is to be returned to the proper base.
JMHO,