"Warm-up" pitches for potentially injured F1

[MD Longhorn]

Despite Mike's commentary on this, we've been told to stand within earshot as well for this very same reason. If they are talking about the injury, no worries - if they start talking strategy, the injury timeout is over ... and if they keep talking strategy, it can become a visit. I've been told this at both ASA and NFHS clinics.

[IRISHMAFIA]

Originally Posted by MD Longhorn

Despite Mike's commentary on this, we've been told to stand within earshot as well for this very same reason. If they are talking about the injury, no worries - if they start talking strategy, the injury timeout is over ... and if they keep talking strategy, it can become a visit. I've been told this at both ASA and NFHS clinics.

So, if the coach asks, "any suggestions?" of the pitcher being wheeled off the field on a stretcher you are going to charge them a conference if she offers an answer?


IMO, this is your standard chicken shit stuff that umpires could do without.

[MD Longhorn]

Originally Posted by IRISHMAFIA

So, if the coach asks, "any suggestions?" of the pitcher being wheeled off the field on a stretcher you are going to charge them a conference if she offers an answer?


IMO, this is your standard chicken shit stuff that umpires could do without.

That would be chicken shit stuff indeed. Good thing I didn't even remotely say anything like it.

Also, it's been my experience, at least so far, that a pitcher who has requested warm up pitches to see if they can continue is quite unlikely to end up being wheeled off the field on a stretcher.

[Andy]

Here is the situation I had recently:

Hard hit ball up the middle hits the pitcher on the leg. Not life threatening, pitcher doesn't fall down or anything.

After the play is over, D coach asks to check on his pitcher...I tell him to go ahead and walk a discreet distance away.

I hear this exchange:

Coach: You OK?
Pitcher: Yes

Coach: Good, now here is how we want to pitch this next batter....

[IRISHMAFIA]

Originally Posted by Andy

Here is the situation I had recently:

Hard hit ball up the middle hits the pitcher on the leg. Not life threatening, pitcher doesn't fall down or anything.

After the play is over, D coach asks to check on his pitcher...I tell him to go ahead and walk a discreet distance away.

I hear this exchange:

Coach: You OK?
Pitcher: Yes

Coach: Good, now here is how we want to pitch this next batter....

Which when you stop the D coach, he just goes back to the dugout and gives the call to the catcher.

Or it could have went:

Coach: Can I check on my pitcher?
You to pitcher: You okay?
Pitcher: Yeah.
You to coach: She's good coach

[MD Longhorn]

Originally Posted by IRISHMAFIA

Which when you stop the D coach, he just goes back to the dugout and gives the call to the catcher.

How are you going to do that, Mike, if you aren't within earshot. You just told us going out there to be within earshot was one of the dumbest things you'd ever heard.

[IRISHMAFIA]

Originally Posted by MD Longhorn

How are you going to do that, Mike, if you aren't within earshot. You just told us going out there to be within earshot was one of the dumbest things you'd ever heard.

That's my point, you cannot, nor can you stop it.

No, monitoring the conversation for strategy was one of the dumbest things I've ever heard.

It is a dead ball for a specific and permissible reason. During those times, anyone can converse with anyone else. If you are going to say the DC cannot talk to the pitcher about strategy, are you monitoring the OC to make sure they are not talking to their players?

The umpire controls the suspension. When the umpire is satisfied the pitcher is ready to go, you TELL the coach to return to the dugout as the game is going to continue. If the coach doesn't like that and wants to stay, then you charge the conference regardless of the discussion. Game control is part of the job, being a hall monitor isn't.

[Andy]

Originally Posted by IRISHMAFIA

Which when you stop the D coach, he just goes back to the dugout and gives the call to the catcher.

Or it could have went:

Coach: Can I check on my pitcher?
You to pitcher: You okay?
Pitcher: Yeah.
You to coach: She's good coach

Exactly my point....I left out a few details of the specific game situation because I didn't feel like typing that much and it wasn't relevant to my point.

This particular coach was trying to use the "injury" to grab a free defensive conference.

[CecilOne]

Originally Posted by IRISHMAFIA

You to coach: She's good coach

I will not take that responsibility.

[IRISHMAFIA]

Originally Posted by CecilOne

I will not take that responsibility.

I didn't, the pitcher told the coach and me that she was okay. If the coach doesn't agree, s/he has the authority to replace her.