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Old Sat May 31, 2014, 08:20pm
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Runners entitled to advance on over-the-fence home run

Apparently this is an editorial annomoly in both NFHS and ASA. I can't find in either book where the runners on base at the time are entitled to advance when the batter-runners batted ball leaves the park for a home run.

NFHS 8-4-3-g and ASA 8-5-H both state that a ball hit over the fence or that hits the foul pole will entitle the batter runner to a "home run". Neither code gives a definition of a "home run" and neither code actually speaks to the runners on base at the time being awarded home!

I mean I KNOW the runners advance home...but I can't prove it in the book.
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Old Sun Jun 01, 2014, 08:14am
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HR is a 4 base award.

ASA try RS 25 or 26, I think it is 5-8.

They are pushing just like a One-base ward and other awards.
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Old Sun Jun 01, 2014, 01:23pm
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HR is a 4 base award.

ASA try RS 25 or 26, I think it is 5-8.

They are pushing just like a One-base ward and other awards.
RS 25 says in slow pitch b/r and all runners go right to the dugout and need not run bases. Nothing about fast pitch.

RS 26 talks says if over the fence in flight the b/r is awarded a "home run" but nothing says what a home run entitles the b/r to do and awards to the runners are not mentioned at all.

5-8 sets limits on over the fence home runs but does not talk about base running awards when a home run occurs.

I mean we all know what a home run is but it's really not in print anywhere.

I ran into this trying to come up with a ruling on an out of the park home run that was complicated by not one but two base running snafus. Stay tuned for a thread on that play.

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Old Wed Jun 04, 2014, 10:17am
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Apparently this is an editorial annomoly in both NFHS and ASA. I can't find in either book where the runners on base at the time are entitled to advance when the batter-runners batted ball leaves the park for a home run.

NFHS 8-4-3-g and ASA 8-5-H both state that a ball hit over the fence or that hits the foul pole will entitle the batter runner to a "home run". Neither code gives a definition of a "home run" and neither code actually speaks to the runners on base at the time being awarded home!

I mean I KNOW the runners advance home...but I can't prove it in the book.
FWIW, ISF 8.7.g

Runners are entitled to advance without liability to be put out when a fair-batted fly ball
1. Goes over the fence
2. Goes directly off the fielder's glove or body and over the fence in fair territory, or makes contact with the top of the fence and goes over the fence in fair territory, or
3. Contacts the foul pole above the fence level.

EFFECT: The ball is dead and all runners shall be entitled to advance to home plate

There are exceptions after that which I'm too lazy to write, basically excepting when the ball goes into foul territory off the glove or body of fielder, and if it goes over the fence off the glove or body after first hitting the fence (two bases)
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Apparently this is an editorial annomoly in both NFHS and ASA. I can't find in either book where the runners on base at the time are entitled to advance when the batter-runners batted ball leaves the park for a home run.

NFHS 8-4-3-g and ASA 8-5-H both state that a ball hit over the fence or that hits the foul pole will entitle the batter runner to a "home run". Neither code gives a definition of a "home run" and neither code actually speaks to the runners on base at the time being awarded home!

I mean I KNOW the runners advance home...but I can't prove it in the book.
NFHS:
Table 5-1
Activity #11 - ref 5-1-11 'award ALL runners home plate'
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