how many outs do you have?

[Manny A]

Unless I'm missing something, this seems pretty straightforward. I can't imagine what you may be thinking that would lead to any other conclusion but two outs.

[agr8zebra]

I think it is something we miss frequently, what is it?

[RKBUmp]

In fed the ball is dead when the batter runner enters the dugout.

[CecilOne]

Originally Posted by RKBUmp

In fed the ball is dead when the batter runner enters the dugout.

rule cite ?

[RKBUmp]

8-2-4 Penalty The ball is dead and the runner(s) must return to the last base touched at the time of the infraction.

[LIUmp]

The ball is dead in ASA also. 8-2D Effect. One out, runner is returned to third.

[RKBUmp]

8-2-d effect says slow pitch

[Manny A]

Originally Posted by RKBUmp

In fed the ball is dead when the batter runner enters the dugout.

Oooh, I feel sheepish. I didn't realize the rule required killing the play to call the BR out.

I have never done that; in fact, when a BR enters DBT after failing to advance to first on an U3K, I seldom make any signal or announcement. If she decides to come out of the dugout to try to advance to first, then I would say something. But that's never happened to me before.

FWIW, the NCAA rule allows for the ball to be kept live. So does every other organization I've umpired in (baseball-wise) except, I've now learned, ASA and FED softball.