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Old Mon May 13, 2013, 06:22am
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I can't speak to USSSA specifically as we don't have it here. But in ASA and NFHS you would still give the offense the choice of keeping the result of the play with bases loaded or taking the IP call advancing R1 to home, advancing R2 to 3B, and returning the batter to the plate with a 2 ball 1 strike count.

The option is not only if the batter fails to reach 1B safely, it applies after any IP in which the ball was put in play unless the batter reaches 1B and all other runners safely advance one base. In that case it's like the IP never happened.
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Old Mon May 13, 2013, 08:48am
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I can't speak to USSSA specifically as we don't have it here. But in ASA and NFHS you would still give the offense the choice of keeping the result of the play with bases loaded or taking the IP call advancing R1 to home, advancing R2 to 3B, and returning the batter to the plate with a 2 ball 1 strike count.

The option is not only if the batter fails to reach 1B safely, it applies after any IP in which the ball was put in play unless the batter reaches 1B and all other runners safely advance one base. In that case it's like the IP never happened.
Same outcome stated here would apply to USSSA as well.
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Old Mon May 13, 2013, 09:30am
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Similar but different-what's the mechanic?

Bases loaded, pitcher steps to the pitcher's plate, hands come together, hands separate and windup starts. Then she stops (maybe changes her mind, I dunno) and resets.
At this point, I stopped the play, called illegal pitch, ball on the batter & advanced runners.
Was I supposed to allow her to complete her 2nd attempt at the pitch, and wait to see the result of the play?
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Old Mon May 13, 2013, 09:40am
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Bases loaded, pitcher steps to the pitcher's plate, hands come together, hands separate and windup starts. Then she stops (maybe changes her mind, I dunno) and resets.
At this point, I stopped the play, called illegal pitch, ball on the batter & advanced runners.
Was I supposed to allow her to complete her 2nd attempt at the pitch, and wait to see the result of the play?
IIRC, in that situation, once the pitcher begins her pitch (hands come apart), then she stops, she has committed an illegal pitch for not releasing the pitch. This is a dead ball illegl pitch. At this point signal dead ball, and give the appropriate reward.
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Old Mon May 13, 2013, 09:42am
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Bases loaded, pitcher steps to the pitcher's plate, hands come together, hands separate and windup starts. Then she stops (maybe changes her mind, I dunno) and resets.
At this point, I stopped the play, called illegal pitch, ball on the batter & advanced runners.
Was I supposed to allow her to complete her 2nd attempt at the pitch, and wait to see the result of the play?
You wait on situations where the pitch was illegal but still happened - crow hops, leaps, 24", etc. You go ahead and stop it on a situation like you described.
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