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Old Tue Jun 12, 2012, 08:33am
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Illegal Pitch?

Check out this youtube link and let me know what you think for ASA and FED. This is only a side view. When looking at it from behind the plate about half the ball is visible at the top of the motion.

2012-06-11_21-05-12_252.mp4 - YouTube

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Old Tue Jun 12, 2012, 08:42am
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You tell us - what rule in ASA and NFHS do you think she violated? Look it up... then say something like "I think she violated rule x.x.xx because it appears to me she did yyy." Don't just post a video and say "do you think she's illegal, and give me the rule references, please."
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Old Tue Jun 12, 2012, 08:43am
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Double touch, illegal in both FED and ASA.
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Old Tue Jun 12, 2012, 08:53am
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Check out this youtube link and let me know what you think for ASA and FED. This is only a side view. When looking at it from behind the plate about half the ball is visible at the top of the motion.

2012-06-11_21-05-12_252.mp4 - YouTube

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Agree, and 1 or 2 feet in contact is the ASA/NFHS difference.

I see that your post is a mp4 file. I have been looking for an editor for mp4 with no luck. Do you know one?
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Old Tue Jun 12, 2012, 09:09am
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You tell us - what rule in ASA and NFHS do you think she violated? Look it up... then say something like "I think she violated rule x.x.xx because it appears to me she did yyy." Don't just post a video and say "do you think she's illegal, and give me the rule references, please."
I believe it is illegal based on FED 6.1.4.b and ASA 6.3.b and 6.3.c. I didn't ask for a rules reference, just an opinion. I can look things up myself. Had a long discussion with her coach about this last night. This is why I posted it here.
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Old Tue Jun 12, 2012, 09:10am
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Agree, and 1 or 2 feet in contact is the ASA/NFHS difference.

I see that your post is a mp4 file. I have been looking for an editor for mp4 with no luck. Do you know one?
I don't
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Old Tue Jun 12, 2012, 09:27am
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...I have been looking for an editor for mp4 with no luck. Do you know one?
Free? Dunno. There are lots of commercial editors, including many low priced ones (depending on your definition of "low"), such as Nero Video.
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Old Tue Jun 12, 2012, 11:45am
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I believe it is illegal based on FED 6.1.4.b and ASA 6.3.b and 6.3.c. I didn't ask for a rules reference, just an opinion. I can look things up myself. Had a long discussion with her coach about this last night. This is why I posted it here.
But when you talk with a partner or the issue comes to a UIC, you need to let them know what you are seeing that makes you suspiscious.

Based upon your statement that part of the ball disappears into the glove, I would agree she separates and returns to bring the hands together.

I would have to see how she adjusted the first violation before moving onto the second.
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Old Tue Jun 12, 2012, 01:04pm
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I would say...

Illegal because she comes past the hip twice.

Edit: Actually it appears she comes past the hip 3 times.

Last edited by DeputyUICHousto; Tue Jun 12, 2012 at 01:05pm. Reason: On closer inspection.
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Old Tue Jun 12, 2012, 01:07pm
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Free? Dunno. There are lots of commercial editors, including many low priced ones (depending on your definition of "low"), such as Nero Video.
Thanks, Tom.
Don't care about free, just ease and quality. Do you know anything about this one?
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Old Tue Jun 12, 2012, 01:52pm
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Illegal because she comes past the hip twice.

Edit: Actually it appears she comes past the hip 3 times.
I see no smiley face, but surely you are joking...
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Old Tue Jun 12, 2012, 05:41pm
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Maybe NCASAUmp knows a good editor. He is up on that tekkie stuff (but won't fix your computer)
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Old Wed Jun 13, 2012, 12:01pm
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I agree, double touch, illegal in both FED and ASA.
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Old Wed Jun 13, 2012, 01:24pm
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Thanks, Tom.
Don't care about free, just ease and quality. Do you know anything about this one?
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No, I don't, but from the information on their web site, I see they are Chinese. The software may be great, but I would not give my cc number to a Chinese software company.
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Old Wed Jun 13, 2012, 03:16pm
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Illegal because she comes past the hip twice.

Edit: Actually it appears she comes past the hip 3 times.
It would do you a great service to find a specific rule reference for what you believe this to violate.
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