Illegal Pitch?

[tmielke]

Check out this youtube link and let me know what you think for ASA and FED. This is only a side view. When looking at it from behind the plate about half the ball is visible at the top of the motion.

2012-06-11_21-05-12_252.mp4 - YouTube

Thanks
Tom

[SRW]

You tell us - what rule in ASA and NFHS do you think she violated? Look it up... then say something like "I think she violated rule x.x.xx because it appears to me she did yyy." Don't just post a video and say "do you think she's illegal, and give me the rule references, please."

[tmielke]

Originally Posted by SRW

You tell us - what rule in ASA and NFHS do you think she violated? Look it up... then say something like "I think she violated rule x.x.xx because it appears to me she did yyy." Don't just post a video and say "do you think she's illegal, and give me the rule references, please."

I believe it is illegal based on FED 6.1.4.b and ASA 6.3.b and 6.3.c. I didn't ask for a rules reference, just an opinion. I can look things up myself. Had a long discussion with her coach about this last night. This is why I posted it here.

[IRISHMAFIA]

Originally Posted by tmielke

I believe it is illegal based on FED 6.1.4.b and ASA 6.3.b and 6.3.c. I didn't ask for a rules reference, just an opinion. I can look things up myself. Had a long discussion with her coach about this last night. This is why I posted it here.

But when you talk with a partner or the issue comes to a UIC, you need to let them know what you are seeing that makes you suspiscious.

Based upon your statement that part of the ball disappears into the glove, I would agree she separates and returns to bring the hands together.

I would have to see how she adjusted the first violation before moving onto the second.

[DeputyUICHousto]

Illegal because she comes past the hip twice.

Edit: Actually it appears she comes past the hip 3 times.

[MD Longhorn]

Originally Posted by DeputyUICHousto

Illegal because she comes past the hip twice.

Edit: Actually it appears she comes past the hip 3 times.

I see no smiley face, but surely you are joking...

[AtlUmpSteve]

Originally Posted by DeputyUICHousto

Illegal because she comes past the hip twice.

Edit: Actually it appears she comes past the hip 3 times.

It would do you a great service to find a specific rule reference for what you believe this to violate.

[RKBUmp]

Double touch, illegal in both FED and ASA.

[CecilOne]

Originally Posted by tmielke

Check out this youtube link and let me know what you think for ASA and FED. This is only a side view. When looking at it from behind the plate about half the ball is visible at the top of the motion.

2012-06-11_21-05-12_252.mp4 - YouTube

Thanks
Tom

Agree, and 1 or 2 feet in contact is the ASA/NFHS difference.

I see that your post is a mp4 file. I have been looking for an editor for mp4 with no luck. Do you know one?

[tmielke]

Originally Posted by CecilOne

Agree, and 1 or 2 feet in contact is the ASA/NFHS difference.

I see that your post is a mp4 file. I have been looking for an editor for mp4 with no luck. Do you know one?

I don't

[Dakota]

Originally Posted by CecilOne

...I have been looking for an editor for mp4 with no luck. Do you know one?

Free? Dunno. There are lots of commercial editors, including many low priced ones (depending on your definition of "low"), such as Nero Video.

[CecilOne]

Originally Posted by Dakota

Free? Dunno. There are lots of commercial editors, including many low priced ones (depending on your definition of "low"), such as Nero Video.

Thanks, Tom.
Don't care about free, just ease and quality. Do you know anything about this one?
MP4 Editor, How to Edit MP4 Video Files with MP4 Video Editor

[Dakota]

Originally Posted by CecilOne

Thanks, Tom.
Don't care about free, just ease and quality. Do you know anything about this one?
MP4 Editor, How to Edit MP4 Video Files with MP4 Video Editor

No, I don't, but from the information on their web site, I see they are Chinese. The software may be great, but I would not give my cc number to a Chinese software company.

[AtlUmpSteve]

Originally Posted by Dakota

No, I don't, but from the information on their web site, I see they are Chinese. The software may be great, but I would not give my cc number to a Chinese software company.

Just a suggestion. I keep one credit card just for those transactions where I have doubts; with a very low limit and consistent monitoring on line. I have declined payments before, had the account numbers changed when the account appeared compromised; and closed the account to another bank the one time I felt the customer support wasn't supportive enough.

[Umpteenth]

ASA 6-3-c: The pitcher must not make a stop or reversal of the forward motion after separating the hands.
In the video, the pitcher stops after reaching the 1:00 position (approximate), appears to bring the hands together again, and then reverses direction. IMJ she clearly violates this rule.