Dropped Strike 2, ASA Rule Book

[MD Longhorn]

Originally Posted by umpire george

Dropped Strike 2, ASA Rule Book
No outs, No one on base.
Count of 3 balls 1 strike on batter.
On next pitch, batter swings at and missed pitch which hits dirt in front of plate. Catcher catches pitch cleanly.
Batter believes this is a dropped 3rd srtike and runs to 1st. base.
F2 throws ball to F3.
Do we award ball 4 to batter because the catcher did not throw the ball directly back to the pitcher?
If we do not award ball 4, what rule do we tell OC was used to put batter back in BB to complete her at bat?

No rule necessary. Coach - that was only strike 2. Batter will come back to the box. F3 will throw to pitcher. Play on. Don't make it difficult if it's not difficult.

[x-tremeump]

Originally Posted by mbcrowder

No rule necessary. Coach - that was only strike 2. Batter will come back to the box. F3 will throw to pitcher. Play on. Don't make it difficult if it's not difficult.

I have been to four Umpire schools & they all say the same thing "Do not over Officiate". Similar play dropped third strike with a runner on First. Runner takes off & everyone in the Stadium yells "run" to the BR, then the catcher throws the ball to F3 she drops the ball & the ball goes into dead ball area. Simply state the batter is out to the OC. If you get into a rule interpretation on some of these plays you might say something that can be used against you later in that game or in the season. Also adding to NCASAUMP I now have spell check.

[MD Longhorn]

Originally Posted by xtreamump

I have been to four Umpire schools & they all say the same thing "Do not over Officiate". Similar play dropped third strike with a runner on First. Runner takes off & everyone in the Stadium yells "run" to the BR, then the catcher throws the ball to F3 she drops the ball & the ball goes into dead ball area. Simply state the batter is out to the OC

After awarding R1 her base, I hope!

[x-tremeump]

Originally Posted by mbcrowder

After awarding R1 her base, I hope!

At the TOP 1B was occupied. less than 2 outs.

[Andy]

Originally Posted by xtreamump

At the TOP 1B was occupied. less than 2 outs.

Correct....you have a thrown ball that went out of play...what are you going to do with R1?

[x-tremeump]

Originally Posted by Andy

Correct....you have a thrown ball that went out of play...what are you going to do with R1?

I was excited that I could get in on a discussion that I forgot about R1, of coarse she would get her dead ball award. I was all excited about the BR. It is going to take a while but I am not giving up.

[MD Longhorn]

Originally Posted by xtreamump

At the TOP 1B was occupied. less than 2 outs.

Your point?

[x-tremeump]

Originally Posted by mbcrowder

Your point?

My point was do not Over Officiate or be a Jerk. "OOJ" Trying hard to fit in.

[MD Longhorn]

Originally Posted by xtreamump

My point was do not Over Officiate or be a Jerk. "OOJ" Trying hard to fit in.

It is not overofficious to award R1 a base when the ball goes out of play, depriving said runner of the ability to advance when the ball is thrown away.

[x-tremeump]

Originally Posted by mbcrowder

After awarding R1 her base, I hope!

I am finding a ton of sarcasm.

[MD Longhorn]

Originally Posted by xtreamump

I am finding a ton of sarcasm.

Where sarcasm didn't exist.