NFHS - Umpire Responsible for Clearing bat

[tcannizzo]

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[SRW]

Wow.

It's not in writing (that I know of) that I wear my hat with the brim forward, over my eyes when on the plate.

I think I'm gonna turn it around next time.

Wonder if I get anymore assignments when/if Wild Bill sees me.

[Mark T. DeNucci, Sr.]

I umpire baseball (NFHS) and fastpitch softball (NFHS, ASA, and USSSA). I am a structural engineer and therefore understand the legal arguments that ExqUmp is using to justify moving a bat or catcherr's mask, BUT there is a very BIG problem with his argument, and that is bats and catcher's masks are part of the Playing Field. And while we are required to conduct a pre-game inspection of the playing field for any safety issues, by rule bats and catcher's masks in the context of this dicussion are not safety issues per se.

MTD, Sr.

[EsqUmp]

Originally Posted by Mark T. DeNucci, Sr.

I umpire baseball (NFHS) and fastpitch softball (NFHS, ASA, and USSSA). I am a structural engineer and therefore understand the legal arguments that ExqUmp is using to justify moving a bat or catcherr's mask, BUT there is a very BIG problem with his argument, and that is bats and catcher's masks are part of the Playing Field. And while we are required to conduct a pre-game inspection of the playing field for any safety issues, by rule bats and catcher's masks in the context of this dicussion are not safety issues per se.

MTD, Sr.

Mark,

I'm glad to see someone else with some legal experience can contribute. I agree that those items do become part of the field. How do you think that plays into the duty to reasonably ensure a safe playing field whenever possible?

[IRISHMAFIA]

Originally Posted by SRW

Wow.

It's not in writing (that I know of) that I wear my hat with the brim forward, over my eyes when on the plate.

I think I'm gonna turn it around next time.

Wonder if I get anymore assignments when/if Wild Bill sees me.

Oh, I have a feeling you will get assignments.....may not be to the games you expect, but there will probably be assignments. Now, go get us all a nice draught, will ya'?

Think it is too early to ask where ASA states you have too run the bases in a specific order to score a run?

[EsqUmp]

Originally Posted by IRISHMAFIA

Oh, I have a feeling you will get assignments.....may not be to the games you expect, but there will probably be assignments. Now, go get us all a nice draught, will ya'?

Think it is too early to ask where ASA states you have too run the bases in a specific order to score a run?

The book does say that. It's under scoring. They even had to clarify it a few years ago regarding ITB.

[IRISHMAFIA]

Originally Posted by EsqUmp

The book does say that. It's under scoring. They even had to clarify it a few years ago regarding ITB.

Not true.

[EsqUmp]

Originally Posted by IRISHMAFIA

Not true.

I guess you're right. So if we apply your logic in your original argument over the blatantly illegal softball bat (with the grip starting 4 inches from the knob), I guess the coach wouldn't be wrong to argue the BR could go to 3rd base first.

No wait, you're wrong. The batter-runner is out when...

[IRISHMAFIA]

Originally Posted by EsqUmp

I guess you're right. So if we apply your logic in your original argument over the blatantly illegal softball bat (with the grip starting 4 inches from the knob), I guess the coach wouldn't be wrong to argue the BR could go to 3rd base first.

No wait, you're wrong. The batter-runner is out when...

You are right, NFHS does, but in "Touching Bases in Legal Order", not scoring. ASA has no such order listed. It was suggested a few years ago and dismissed as unnecessary as it would be obvious to the least intelligent person. Go figure.

And, BTW, Mr. Bliss, you are still clueless as it pertains to my raising the issue of "grip", but that does not surprise me as you "read" what you elect with minimal comprehension. I think sometimes, like many folks nowadays, you see certain words and make definitive assumptions instead of taking in the full context of the event.