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Old Wed Feb 08, 2012, 10:35am
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There are times that I am more concerned about the on-deck batter, bat shagger or a coach being in the way than a bat.
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Old Wed Feb 08, 2012, 11:32am
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There are times that I am more concerned about the on-deck batter, bat shagger or a coach being in the way than a bat.
Especially when they seem to appear out of nowhere because it is quite possible such a concern (which is quite valid) can be a distraction to the umpire and others.
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Old Wed Feb 08, 2012, 11:41am
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Just to add my whatever the going price is these days for an opinion, don't touch the bat, or any other player equipment.
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Old Wed Feb 08, 2012, 11:56am
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Especially when they seem to appear out of nowhere because it is quite possible such a concern (which is quite valid) can be a distraction to the umpire and others.
Right, although I was thinking of literally being in the way, collisions, blocking the catcher's access, etc.
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Old Wed Feb 08, 2012, 01:27pm
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Especially when they seem to appear out of nowhere because it is quite possible such a concern (which is quite valid) can be a distraction to the umpire and others.
If the bat is removed by the umpire then the on-batter wont appear there to remove the bat himself. It's gone already.
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Old Wed Feb 08, 2012, 03:31pm
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And while you are moving a bat that is covered by the rules as being a part of the field, are you truly paying attention to the action on the field and looking for any infractions?
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Old Wed Feb 08, 2012, 04:15pm
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If the bat is removed by the umpire then the on-batter wont appear there to remove the bat himself. It's gone already.
Only if the umpire makes it disappear.
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Old Wed Feb 08, 2012, 06:50pm
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Does anyone have anything in writing from ASA/NFHS/NCAA or any other association stating "Do not remove the bat?"

From the majority of the replies, I think we can agree that there is a liability issue, even if we can't agree which is a greater liability. Since there is such a great liability issue, I think that there must be something in writing.
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Old Wed Feb 08, 2012, 07:00pm
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Does anyone have anything in writing from ASA/NFHS/NCAA or any other association stating "Do not remove the bat?"

From the majority of the replies, I think we can agree that there is a liability issue, even if we can't agree which is a greater liability. Since there is such a great liability issue, I think that there must be something in writing.
In writing, no. However, in numerous clinics and schools, we've been instructed by our State UIC to not touch the bat. That's good enough for me.
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Old Wed Feb 08, 2012, 07:07pm
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In writing, no. However, in numerous clinics and schools, we've been instructed by our State UIC to not touch the bat. That's good enough for me.
It troubles me that something that is covered in so many clinics and schools and has such great potential for liability is not in writing.

If I am sued (batter gets injured sliding into a bat) and need to justify why I didn't move a batter, I would like something stronger then, "I was told so at multiple clinics and schools."

I am NOT mocking your answer at all. I also don't doubt that this is what you were taught, as I've heard many people who agree with you.

I just find that type of teaching to be weak. When things aren't in writing, there's always the potential for denial.

I appreciate your honest answer even if I don't agree with the philosophy.
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Old Wed Feb 08, 2012, 10:28pm
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In writing, no. However, in numerous clinics and schools, we've been instructed by our State UIC to not touch the bat. That's good enough for me.
Jim Evans covers this topic with great training. MOVE THE BAT !!!
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Old Wed Feb 08, 2012, 10:39pm
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Does anyone have anything in writing from ASA/NFHS/NCAA or any other association stating "Do not remove the bat?"
Where does it say anywhere 'in writing' of the converse? (about any detached equipment)
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