Co-ed Missed Base

[IRISHMAFIA]

ASA Co-Ed

Two outs, bottom of 7th, tied game, runners on 2B & 3B.

Male batter draws a base on balls and trots down and touches 1B, R1 scores and R2 heads toward 3B, but breaks off early and heads toward the plate for the celebration.

Pitcher gets BU's attention as if to have a conversation and waits until R2 leaves playable territory. Pitcher then appeals R2 missing 3B. Umpire accepts the appeal and rules R2 out.

What, if any, is your ruling?

[CecilOne]

Originally Posted by IRISHMAFIA

ASA Co-Ed

Two outs, bottom of 7th, tied game, runners on 2B & 3B.

Male batter draws a base on balls and trots down and touches 1B, R1 scores and R2 heads toward 3B, but breaks off early and heads toward the plate for the celebration.

Pitcher gets BU's attention as if to have a conversation and waits until R2 leaves playable territory. Pitcher then appeals R2 missing 3B. Umpire accepts the appeal and rules R2 out.

What, if any, is your ruling?

I think the only sig of corec is that the batter gets two bases, forcing the runners. So, it is just a question of whether bases have to be touched after the game "ends", and I say no.
Disclaimer, did not look it up, not up to date on dead ball running like home runs.

[NCASAUmp]

I would say that since the male BR is awarded 2B and not 1B, R2 no longer has the rights to 2B and is forced to advance. The defense properly appealed, so this would be a force out.

Since the 3rd out was a force out, no runs score, we go to the 8th.

[CecilOne]

Originally Posted by NCASAUmp

I would say that since the male BR is awarded 2B and not 1B, R2 no longer has the rights to 2B and is forced to advance. The defense properly appealed, so this would be a force out.

Since the 3rd out was a force out, no runs score, we go to the 8th.

OK, help me with nitty-gritty. Isn't the male batter awarded 2nd if followed by a female batter, and that is nul if the game or inning end.

Also, is R2 going to 3rd an award, because of the BB 2 bases, or really a force?

[NCASAUmp]

Originally Posted by CecilOne

OK, help me with nitty-gritty. Isn't the male batter awarded 2nd if followed by a female batter, and that is nul if the game or inning end.

Also, is R2 going to 3rd an award, because of the BB 2 bases, or really a force?

The male batter is always awarded 2nd base. Always, always, always.

[UmpireErnie]

It is no different than the scenario with two outs and bases loaded for a female batter who draws a walk, and R2 on 2B fails to touch 3B.

A proper appeal will result in the third out and the run does not score.

There is no "exception" for the runner to not have to touch the base he/she is forced to just because the force was made by a male batter being awarded two bases on a walk.

P.S. In my experience most coed SP teams will have no idea they can appeal this. You and your partner (if you have one) will be the only ones who know. Pause long enough to make sure the defense will not surprise you with an appeal.. as soon as it is clear they will not, exit the field the game is over.

[Tru_in_Blu]

Originally Posted by NCASAUmp

I would say that since the male BR is awarded 2B and not 1B, R2 no longer has the rights to 2B and is forced to advance. The defense properly appealed, so this would be a force out.

Since the 3rd out was a force out, no runs score, we go to the 8th.

I'll add that while R2 may have been "forced to advance", I don't think this is a force out.

[NCASAUmp]

Originally Posted by Tru_in_Blu

I'll add that while R2 may have been "forced to advance", I don't think this is a force out.

Care to explain why?

[Tru_in_Blu]

Originally Posted by NCASAUmp

Care to explain why?

Night At The Museum: Battle for the Smithsonian

THINKING.... THINKING..... THINKING.....

I'm thinking back to a case play or perhaps a discussion on this board. Game is FP in this scenario. W/ bases loaded and 2 outs, batter draws a walk. R1 casually walks toward home. R2 agressively takes third and over-runs. F2 throws to F5 who tags R2 for the third out before R1 touches home.

In this case I believe the run still counted.