Co-ed Missed Base

[CecilOne]

Originally Posted by NCASAUmp

I would say that since the male BR is awarded 2B and not 1B, R2 no longer has the rights to 2B and is forced to advance. The defense properly appealed, so this would be a force out.

Since the 3rd out was a force out, no runs score, we go to the 8th.

OK, help me with nitty-gritty. Isn't the male batter awarded 2nd if followed by a female batter, and that is nul if the game or inning end.

Also, is R2 going to 3rd an award, because of the BB 2 bases, or really a force?

[NCASAUmp]

Originally Posted by CecilOne

OK, help me with nitty-gritty. Isn't the male batter awarded 2nd if followed by a female batter, and that is nul if the game or inning end.

Also, is R2 going to 3rd an award, because of the BB 2 bases, or really a force?

The male batter is always awarded 2nd base. Always, always, always.

[UmpireErnie]

It is no different than the scenario with two outs and bases loaded for a female batter who draws a walk, and R2 on 2B fails to touch 3B.

A proper appeal will result in the third out and the run does not score.

There is no "exception" for the runner to not have to touch the base he/she is forced to just because the force was made by a male batter being awarded two bases on a walk.

P.S. In my experience most coed SP teams will have no idea they can appeal this. You and your partner (if you have one) will be the only ones who know. Pause long enough to make sure the defense will not surprise you with an appeal.. as soon as it is clear they will not, exit the field the game is over.

[MNBlue]

I don't work SP, but I was watching a friend play U-trip co-ed. In that game, when a male was walked, the female batting next was given the option to hit or take a walk. Is that a U-trip book rule or does it sound local? Does ASA have a similar 'option'?

[NCASAUmp]

Originally Posted by MNBlue

I don't work SP, but I was watching a friend play U-trip co-ed. In that game, when a male was walked, the female batting next was given the option to hit or take a walk. Is that a U-trip book rule or does it sound local? Does ASA have a similar 'option'?

ASA has a similar rule.

Less than two outs, the female batter must bat.

With two outs, the female batter has the option to bat or take an award of 1B.

In either case, the male batter is always awarded 2B.

[Tru_in_Blu]

I didn't look it up, and am just guessing. I'm going to go with the timing play logic, similar to runners tagging. So if the runner from third scored prior to a legal appeal on another runner for leaving a base too early, the run would score.

Similarly, w/ runners on second & third and 2 outs, a hard ground ball to F1 who throws it over the fence. BR would be awarded second base, and runners would advance appropriately. If runner from third scored, and runner from second didn't touch third base, but came in for the celebration, the run would count and game over.

Yeah/nay?