CWS FL-AZ plate umpire

[topper]

Originally Posted by Big Slick

The PU will NEVER give up the play at first if that is where the play is happening, in a two umpire system of three umpire system. Even if the single runner started at second. You see the play first, then you move to third.

If that's what you believe, please cite page number of the must recent ASA or NCAA manuals.

You'll have to let me know if it's changed, but the '09 CCA Softball manual pg. 181 says:

"...come to the foul line in fair territory and trail the batter-runner about 10 feet up the line. Be stopped in a ready set to see the play at first base. If R1 rounds second base, move to a primary position for a tag play at third base by first establishing your angle and then closing down the distance."

Doesn't seem to definitively support Bandit or Big Slick.

[Big Slick]

Originally Posted by topper

You'll have to let me know if it's changed, but the '09 CCA Softball manual pg. 181 says:

"...come to the foul line in fair territory and trail the batter-runner about 10 feet up the line. Be stopped in a ready set to see the play at first base. If R1 rounds second base, move to a primary position for a tag play at third base by first establishing your angle and then closing down the distance."

Doesn't seem to definitively support Bandit or Big Slick.

Isn't that what I said? It is on page 183 of the 2011 manual. I was in agreement with Wade (starting writing before he made his post) countering Bandit.

[KJUmp]

Originally Posted by Big Slick

Isn't that what I said? It is on page 182 of the 2011 manual. I was in agreement with Wade (starting writing before he made his post) countering Bandit.

Slick....fixed the page number for you.
P.183 is the coverage for Single to OF w/Runner on 1st. P.182 is the coverage for the OP...Hit to INF w/Runner on 1st.

[ronald]

From ASA FP camp 2009 by julie johnson

runner on 2nd base and ball hit on infield with play going to first base. hp umps primary is 3rd base. move directly up the line and head moves on a swivel. we went over this before.

runner on 1st. trail and move to poistion at third when runner hits second.

[luvthegame]

Originally Posted by ronald

From ASA FP camp 2009 by julie johnson

runner on 2nd base and ball hit on infield with play going to first base. hp umps primary is 3rd base. move directly up the line and head moves on a swivel. we went over this before.

runner on 1st. trail and move to poistion at third when runner hits second.

From ASA FP camp 2009 by julie johnson.

Then where should the 3b umpire go?

Did we go over this before?

[IRISHMAFIA]

Originally Posted by luvthegame

From ASA FP camp 2009 by julie johnson.

Then where should the 3b umpire go?

Did we go over this before?

I don't know, I saw two scenarios cited in your response. Once there is a runner starts on 2B, U3 goes nowhere, unless out on a fly ball down LF line, the PU goes no where unless to make a fair/foul, catch/no catch on the RF line.

[ronald]

Originally Posted by IRISHMAFIA

I don't know, I saw two scenarios cited in your response. Once there is a runner starts on 2B, U3 goes nowhere, unless out on a fly ball down LF line, the PU goes no where unless to make a fair/foul, catch/no catch on the RF line.

guess i did not notice you guys were discussing 3man.