CWS FL-AZ plate umpire

[Bandit]

Originally Posted by Big Slick

Seems you read that incorrectly. If the play at third is the secondary play, meaning a play has happened somewhere else, then the PU will make the call at third. If the initial play is on R1, PU will not be making this call in any umpire system.

In a 3 umpire system with a runner starting on first and the initial attempt for a out is on R1 as she approaches third, whose call if not the plate umpires?

PU has the responsibility to watch for this on plays at first base, and where it is seen from depends on where runners start. But in this instance, with R1 (at first), PU will trail a BR.

Agreed. Only until R1 is commited to third. Then the plate umpire must move towards 3rd.

Normally? Try like the PU should never trail more than 15 feet.

Agreed. Comment on distance was given only as a reference, not an exact distance.

The PU will NEVER give up the play at first if that is where the play is happening, in a two umpire system of three umpire system. Even if the single runner started at second. You see the play first, then you move to third.

If the runner starts at second the plate should not be trailing BR, true?

If that's what you believe, please cite page number of the must recent ASA or NCAA manuals.

ASA National Staff

[MD Longhorn]

Originally Posted by Bandit

ASA National Staff

Congrats on announcing (boldly!) who wrote the book. Kudos.

Now try opening it. As promised, I did. It's right there in black and white - your assertions are dead wrong.

[Bandit]

Originally Posted by mbcrowder

Congrats on announcing (boldly!) who wrote the book. Kudos.

Now try opening it. As promised, I did. It's right there in black and white - your assertions are dead wrong.

Page?

[MD Longhorn]

Originally Posted by Bandit

Page?

Again ... book in the car. However, you've been told by EVERYBODY that you are wrong... why don't you crack open the book for the first time and find even the slimmest shred of evidence supporting your contention, and tell US what page it's on. Good luck. You won't.

You're the guy in the elevator facing the back. When told that you're supposed to face front, you say, "Nope, this is the right way." The entire elevator tells you you're wrong. You say, "Prove it". They all point to a sign on the front of the elevator ... behind you. You say, "Can't see that, I'm facing the back."

[Bandit]

"From ASA FP camp 2009 by julie johnson

runner on 1st. trail and move to poistion at third when runner hits second."

Isn't this what I said?