The beer thread

[IRISHMAFIA]

Originally Posted by KJUmp

Based on the description in the OP, I took it as AtlUmp Steve did...that it was not a dropped 3K sitch.

You may also have noted, "B4" was the batter with two runners on

As stated, the batter is out. Doesn't make any difference if she was swinging or not. The batter is not eligible to advance to 1B since it was occupied at the time of the pitch.

You cannot rule that the BR interfered with a D3K since neither existed in this case.

Best case scenario, rule the ball dead as a blocked ball and return the runners if, IYJ, there was no play to be had by the catcher.

Worst case scenario, enforce 8.7.P and call the runner closest to home out (rule only requires the possibility of a play, not an out) and return the trailing runner to the base last touched at the time of the interference.

[Welpe]

We're doing dinner and a movie at the Alamo draft house. I just ordered a St. Arnold, will report back after I've tried it.

[Skahtboi]

Originally Posted by Welpe

We're doing dinner and a movie at the Alamo draft house. I just ordered a St. Arnold, will report back after I've tried it.

Which St. Arnold? They have several brews.

[Skahtboi]

Originally Posted by IRISHMAFIA

You may also have noted, "B4" was the batter with two runners on

As stated, the batter is out. Doesn't make any difference if she was swinging or not. The batter is not eligible to advance to 1B since it was occupied at the time of the pitch.

You cannot rule that the BR interfered with a D3K since neither existed in this case.

Best case scenario, rule the ball dead as a blocked ball and return the runners if, IYJ, there was no play to be had by the catcher.

Worst case scenario, enforce 8.7.P and call the runner closest to home out (rule only requires the possibility of a play, not an out) and return the trailing runner to the base last touched at the time of the interference.

Seems like the only important question here is who is buying the beer.

[KJUmp]

Originally Posted by IRISHMAFIA

You may also have noted, "B4" was the batter with two runners on

As stated, the batter is out. Doesn't make any difference if she was swinging or not. The batter is not eligible to advance to 1B since it was occupied at the time of the pitch.

You cannot rule that the BR interfered with a D3K since neither existed in this case.

Best case scenario, rule the ball dead as a blocked ball and return the runners if, IYJ, there was no play to be had by the catcher.

Worst case scenario, enforce 8.7.P and call the runner closest to home out (rule only requires the possibility of a play, not an out) and return the trailing runner to the base last touched at the time of the interference.

Irish,
Both scenarios make sense.
Curious....how did the three of you rule in that 14U game where this play occurred....the best case scenario or the worst case scenario?

[umpirebob71]

Myself, I'm a Sam Adams Cherry Wheat fan.

[Welpe]

Originally Posted by Skahtboi

Which St. Arnold? They have several brews.

Sorry...Amber Ale. Honestly, I was a little disappointed.

[Skahtboi]

Originally Posted by Welpe

Sorry...Amber Ale. Honestly, I was a little disappointed.

Yeah. I am not a fan of the Amber Ale. A little on the sweet side. Otherwise, sort of lifeless. There aren't many St. Arnold's beers that I drink, though I will drink them if there is nothing else available. Their Oktoberfest is pretty good.

[argodad]

Originally Posted by umpirebob71

Myself, I'm a Sam Adams Cherry Wheat fan.

Tried it as an entrant in our annual family reunion beer-tasting. It was ruled "cough syrup" and scored low.

[umpirebob71]

Originally Posted by argodad

Tried it as an entrant in our annual family reunion beer-tasting. It was ruled "cough syrup" and scored low.

Maybe that's why I haven't had a cold in years!

[Skahtboi]

Never tried the Cherry Wheat. It has two things going against it. I am not a fan of fruit beers (including true lambics), nor fruit in beer (just for the record). Also, I am not real big on wheat beers, though there are some I like enough to drink once in a while. (See previous reference to Erdinger's Dunkelweiss.)

[JefferMC]

I guess this should be in the little ball forum, but after the Dos Equis comments, I had to share this:



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[IRISHMAFIA]

Originally Posted by KJUmp

Irish,
Both scenarios make sense.
Curious....how did the three of you rule in that 14U game where this play occurred....the best case scenario or the worst case scenario?

The umpires on the field just killed the ball, and "sold" the runners would have had the base made, so they allowed them to stay.

This type of ruling occurs too often as umpires try to be "fair" and use that to justify a ruling without regards to the actual rule.

Did the catcher have a play? Can't tell since the ball was hit with the bat as she reached for it. That act there kills ANYTHING and if the runners did not have the base by that point (they did not), the minimum is going back to the previous base.

Umpires need to remember there are two teams on the field and they deserve equal treatment. The offense is the team that caused the problem, so I cannot see "rewarding" them with a free base.

[KJUmp]

[QUOTE=IRISHMAFIA;683403]The umpires on the field just killed the ball, and "sold" the runners would have had the base made, so they allowed them to stay.

This type of ruling occurs too often as umpires try to be "fair" and use that to justify a ruling without regards to the actual rule.

Did the catcher have a play? Can't tell since the ball was hit with the bat as she reached for it. That act there kills ANYTHING and if the runners did not have the base by that point (they did not), the minimum is going back to the previous base.

Umpires need to remember there are two teams on the field and they deserve equal treatment. The offense is the team that caused the problem, so I cannot see "rewarding" them with a free base.[/QUOTE]

Couldn't agree with you more. Offense causes the problem and ends up with two runners in scoring position in a championship game.
Good sitch to post...(one of those 'weird stuff' happens sitches)...and to learn from.

The next beer is on my tab.