The beer thread

[Skahtboi]

Okay, in all fairness, I thought that I would start a beer thread that can be hijacked by actual umpire business.

I was at a grocery store today and was shocked, shocked I tell you, to find sixers of Bridgeport IPA. I did not know that Bridgeport was distributed this far east! Anyway, I picked some up. It has been years since I last had some, and then it was on tap.

[NCASAUmp]

Anyone up for an OBS debate?

[Welpe]

I claim full responsibility for hijacking the last thread. Mentioning beer in this forum is like throwing chum in shark infested waters.

Dave, I do have obstruction on this play but am only protecting the runner to second.

[NCASAUmp]

Originally Posted by Welpe

I claim full responsibility for hijacking the last thread. Mentioning beer in this forum is like throwing chum in shark infested waters.

Dave, I do have obstruction on this play but am only protecting the runner to second.

Glad we solved that. Now, pilsner or pale ale?

[Steve M]

Originally Posted by Welpe

I claim full responsibility for hijacking the last thread. Mentioning beer in this forum is like throwing chum in shark infested waters.

Dave, I do have obstruction on this play but am only protecting the runner to second.

He!! I've got a score - or in words Big Slick understands - dessert!
that's always a good thing.

[Welpe]

OK fine...score the runner.

I'm enjoying a Session Lager right now, very tasty!

[Dakota]

There are only 2 classifications of beer: lager and ale. Every other beer is a subcategory of those. Porter is an ale and pilsner is a lager, for example.

[IRISHMAFIA]

Had a play tonight in the State 14U Championship game.

Runners on 1st & 2nd, B4 strikes out and in disgust swings the bat downward striking the ball which was dropped by F2. Runners advanced one base and B4 headed to the dugout.

As one of the three umpires involved in the meeting after coach questions "play", what are you thinking and saying?

[KJUmp]

Originally Posted by IRISHMAFIA

Had a play tonight in the State 14U Championship game.

Runners on 1st & 2nd, B4 strikes out and in disgust swings the bat downward striking the ball which was dropped by F2. Runners advanced one base and B4 headed to the dugout.

As one of the three umpires involved in the meeting after coach questions "play", what are you thinking and saying?

OK, I'll take a stab (w/o the books which are still in the car) to get the conversation/debate rolling:

I'm assuming by the description of the sitch, that B4 did not swing at the 3rd strike and that it was a called 3rd strike by the PU.

I don't see how the runners can be allowed to advance. Offensive player (B4) did something wrong in "striking the ball which was dropped by F2."

At the very least, dead ball and the runners return to 2B and 1B.

However, as the ball that F2 dropped was a live ball, and B4 stuck it with her bat AFTER she was called out, do we not have interference on B4 after being put out, and as such, the runner nearest home is also called out?

Irish, interesting sitch to be sure. Curious to hear everyone else's opinion and the definitive correct ruling.

[CecilOne]

Originally Posted by KJUmp

However, as the ball that F2 dropped was a live ball, and B4 stuck it with her bat AFTER she was called out, do we not have interference on B4 after being put out, and as such, the runner nearest home is also called out?

The batter could not be called out before hittiing the ball as it was an U3K, so "stuck it with her bat AFTER she was called out" is not the case.
I think I would have ruled batter-runner interference, dead ball, BR out, no runners advance.

[AtlUmpSteve]

Originally Posted by CecilOne

The batter could not be called out before hittiing the ball as it was an U3K, so "stuck it with her bat AFTER she was called out" is not the case.
I think I would have ruled batter-runner interference, dead ball, BR out, no runners advance.

If runners advance, not two outs; and first base was occupied. So batter is out, never became a batter-runner.

[KJUmp]

Originally Posted by CecilOne

The batter could not be called out before hittiing the ball as it was an U3K, so "stuck it with her bat AFTER she was called out" is not the case.
I think I would have ruled batter-runner interference, dead ball, BR out, no runners advance.

Based on the description in the OP, I took it as AtlUmp Steve did...that it was not a dropped 3K sitch.

[CecilOne]

Originally Posted by AtlUmpSteve

If runners advance, not two outs; and first base was occupied. So batter is out, never became a batter-runner.

Yeah, the OP doesn't say outs, so "B4 headed to dugout" is ambiguous. But does "Runners advanced" mean legally?
If not 2 outs, B4 is out on the K. But did she interfere with the catcher getting another out?
If INT, then KJump's "interference on B4 after being put out, and as such, the runner nearest home is also called out" would apply.
But then is B4 treated as a retired runner?

Looks like a good reason for 3 umpires.

[JefferMC]

what are you thinking and saying?

I'm thinking I need a beer.

[Dakota]

Originally Posted by JefferMC

I'm thinking I need a beer.

My thoughts, exactly!