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Old Fri Oct 09, 2009, 09:55am
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OK, but why do we (umpires) care if the subs are listed on the lineup card? I get the little bit of time to write the number down when the sub enters, but is that worth a big to-do with the coach?
Well, you sell it to the coach. If all the information is correct, s/he doesn't need to come out and explain Billy Bob is in for JoeWilly at 1b and JoeWilly is....yada, yada, yada. IOW, it makes their life and maintaining a correct line-up easier for THEM.

Most JO coaches understand it makes their life easier.

Coach A: "Blue, 24 for 10"
Blue: "That was 24 for 10, right Coach?"
Blue: "Coach B, 24 for 10".
Coach B: "Thanks, Blue"
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Old Fri Oct 09, 2009, 10:28am
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Well, you sell it to the coach. If all the information is correct, s/he doesn't need to come out and explain Billy Bob is in for JoeWilly at 1b and JoeWilly is....yada, yada, yada. IOW, it makes their life and maintaining a correct line-up easier for THEM.

Most JO coaches understand it makes their life easier.

Coach A: "Blue, 24 for 10"
Blue: "That was 24 for 10, right Coach?"
Blue: "Coach B, 24 for 10".
Coach B: "Thanks, Blue"
Ah!!!

But you must not be aware of the super secret 14 y/o stud off the bench ploy!

Actually, the time it happened, I think he read a book for his first time and figured that out and wanted to see if anyone else knew his little rule.

idiot.
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Old Fri Oct 09, 2009, 10:33am
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Ah!!!

But you must not be aware of the super secret 14 y/o stud off the bench ploy!

Actually, the time it happened, I think he read a book for his first time and figured that out and wanted to see if anyone else knew his little rule.

idiot.
That's when you hope they are on the clock and this coach is losing. Then you just take your time, repeat every word s/he says....twice.... meander over to the opposing team, take your time giving them the change, towel off and get a drink of water, meander back to the plate, turn to Coach Idiot and say, "by the way coach, the clock did not stop for that change."
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Old Sun Oct 11, 2009, 09:18pm
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Well, you sell it to the coach. If all the information is correct, s/he doesn't need to come out and explain Billy Bob is in for JoeWilly at 1b and JoeWilly is....yada, yada, yada. IOW, it makes their life and maintaining a correct line-up easier for THEM.

Most JO coaches understand it makes their life easier.

Coach A: "Blue, 24 for 10"
Blue: "That was 24 for 10, right Coach?"
Blue: "Coach B, 24 for 10".
Coach B: "Thanks, Blue"
While I agree with this, when the coach gives me the subs by number I like to read it back to them with names as I put it on my lineup card.

Coach A: "Blue I have 24 for 10"
Blue. : "OK that was 24 Jones for 10 Smith"
Coach A: "No No I am putting Johnson in. Oh, yeah she has on number 23 today."

I find at least a couple of wrong jersey numbers listed every season this way and verifying at the time of sub I save a time consuming problem later when I have to unravel a potential illegal sub that is really just a legal line up card correction. Done at the time of the sub it is easy, later you may have to have a discussion with the "offended" coach.
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