Had to forfeit my 1st game

[NCASAUmp]

Originally Posted by vcblue

I don't agree with the way this was handled. This was pure and simply a coach hastens or delay the game. Tell the coach he can't do that and that if he insists you may forfeit the game. If he continues on sending out his team to D eject him for USC. Tell the AC the same thing (By this time the clock would have expired). If the AC does nothing then call over the TD and UIC (in Socal ASA only the TD can Forfeit a game) tell them what happened and let them decide. In either case the game is over (however, this should not matter to us). Most ASA Commissioners I know would not go for this crap by a coach and would most like forfeit the game.

Wait, wait, wait... What?! Only the TD can forfeit a game?! That's horsespit.

Look, in 17 years, I've only forfeited games for only one reason: not having enough players. So I'm not "quick to the trigger." But I'll be damned if someone is going to take away a perfectly legitimate tool in my toolbag.

What on earth is their rationale?

[Dakota]

Originally Posted by NCASAUmp

...Only the TD can forfeit a game?...What on earth is their rationale?

It is not unusual to have this in the tournament rules; I'd guess the most common forfeit issue in tournaments is a team being late to the field. I'd guess the TD wants a say in forfeits for this reason.

[vcblue]

I'm telling you ever ASA Chapisonship I have ever worked I always hear the same thing from the UIC. We do not forfiet the game. Treat it like a protest. Stop the clock and find the UIC and Commis. The umpire must explain to both why a forfiet is the way to go. They make the decission

[IRISHMAFIA]

Originally Posted by vcblue

I'm telling you ever ASA Chapisonship I have ever worked I always hear the same thing from the UIC. We do not forfiet the game. Treat it like a protest. Stop the clock and find the UIC and Commis. The umpire must explain to both why a forfiet is the way to go. They make the decission

County-wide happy hour in Ventura tonight?

If you are working an ASA Championship game, you don't have a time limit or clock to stop.

Most UICs I know will simply walk up to the the coach and ask the same thing I suggested earlier, whether the coach is refusing to continue playing or not. Coach better come up with a pretty damn good response to be allowed to continue.

[vcblue]

I'm not saying they wouldn't support the decission. I am just saying the TD wants the power. ...and yes I did stop by cornies this evening

[IRISHMAFIA]

Originally Posted by vcblue

I'm not saying they wouldn't support the decission. I am just saying the TD wants the power. ...and yes I did stop by cornies this evening

Well, here's the problem. Once the game starts, the TD doesn't have the power to determine anything which happens on the field.

[bkbjones]

Originally Posted by IRISHMAFIA

County-wide happy hour in Ventura tonight?

If you are working an ASA Championship game, you don't have a time limit or clock to stop.

Actually, you could...
For instance, in our regional code we do have a provision for timed games, in particular in loser's bracket games.

And if you lived in Ventura County, you'd drink too.

[IRISHMAFIA]

Originally Posted by bkbjones

Actually, you could...
For instance, in our regional code we do have a provision for timed games, in particular in loser's bracket games.

And if you lived in Ventura County, you'd drink too.

Again, if playing an ASA Championship GAME ........

Granted, he may have meant play or tournament, but I didn't have Johnny or Jack standing by to interpret.