Obstruction??

[clev1967]

3rd inning of tonight's game on play where Florida runner had to be held up. SS made her alter her path to third? If you saw it do you think it was obstruction? I did. Close but she for sure altered her path to third.

Also, if it is called in that situation and she is thrown out at home and it is somewhat close do you give her home?

[argodad]

Originally Posted by clev1967

3rd inning of tonight's game on play where Florida runner had to be held up. SS made her alter her path to third? If you saw it do you think it was obstruction? I did. Close but she for sure altered her path to third.

Also, if it is called in that situation and she is thrown out at home and it is somewhat close do you give her home?

I thought it was obstruction when I saw it live. When Kruk mentioned it and they showed it in slow motion, it confirmed it for me. In that situation, i would have awarded the runner home. The OC stopped her because she was slowed down getting to 3B. Even then, he stopped her after a big turn.

[wadeintothem]

Personally, I thought it was a good noncall - but there was ..... a mild impeding ..

And there is no way in hell I would have awarded home on that.

[Umpteenth]

When you see OBS, how do you call it (ASA Perspective)? Do you signal Delayed Dead Ball, then verbally call the OBS and grant the award?

Would you do the same with and INT call, or would that be more immediate?

[NCASAUmp]

Originally Posted by Umpteenth

When you see OBS, how do you call it (ASA Perspective)? Do you signal Delayed Dead Ball, then verbally call the OBS and grant the award?

Close. Signal the DDB, verbally call the OBS, grant the award when the play is over (if the runner hasn't already reached or passed the awarded base).

Originally Posted by Umpteenth

Would you do the same with and INT call, or would that be more immediate?

INT is an immediate "Dead ball!" followed by an out (or two, depending on the INT call).

[IRISHMAFIA]

Originally Posted by Umpteenth

When you see OBS, how do you call it (ASA Perspective)? Do you signal Delayed Dead Ball, then verbally call the OBS and grant the award?

Dave is correct, but I hate the verbalization. I have observed and personally experienced players stop playing when they hear the umpire say something IF you are going to verbalize, don't scream.

[NCASAUmp]

Originally Posted by IRISHMAFIA

Dave is correct, but I hate the verbalization. I have observed and personally experienced players stop playing when they hear the umpire say something IF you are going to verbalize, don't scream.

I'll admit that out of the thousands of OBS calls I've made, I've not once verbalized "obstruction." I only mentioned it because, well, that's what's taught at the clinics.

[wadeintothem]

pretty much no one does.. we all know were supposed to though

Throw the arm.. they know what that means.

[NCASAUmp]

Originally Posted by wadeintothem

pretty much no one does.. we all know were supposed to though

Throw the arm.. they know what that means.

I've never heard ANY of my partners verbalize it either, regardless of whether they're newbies or veterans. I don't understand why ASA wants us to verbalize it, since any verbalization other than "safe" tends to stop the runners. We don't yell "fair ball," so why yell something else that could potentially stop play prematurely?

Can someone call Kevin, send him $50 and get him to take it out of the Umpire's Manual? I'll gladly chip in a few bucks!

[wadeintothem]

Originally Posted by NCASAUmp

I've never heard ANY of my partners verbalize it either, regardless of whether they're newbies or veterans. I don't understand why ASA wants us to verbalize it, since any verbalization other than "safe" tends to stop the runners. We don't yell "fair ball," so why yell something else that could potentially stop play prematurely?

Can someone call Kevin, send him $50 and get him to take it out of the Umpire's Manual? I'll gladly chip in a few bucks!

If I pay for it, I want the yellow flag added to the rules for DDB

[NCASAUmp]

Originally Posted by wadeintothem

If I pay for it, I want the yellow flag added to the rules for DDB

I thought it was a red flag...

Can anyone tell me who uses those?

[Welpe]

Originally Posted by NCASAUmp

Can someone call Kevin, send him $50 and get him to take it out of the Umpire's Manual? I'll gladly chip in a few bucks!

It must be OBR little ball influence creeping in. Oh the humanity.

I thought it was a red flag...

Can anyone tell me who uses those?

Little League baseball (maybe softball too, though not sure) to indicate a runner left too soon. The umpire drops the flag and lets the play finish. I think killing the ball and calling a runner out for leaving early is a lot easier to deal with but that's Little League for you.

[ronald]

Gosh, sounds like I have been doing it wrong then. I say obstruction but I don't know if anyone has ever heard it.

[wadeintothem]

Originally Posted by NCASAUmp

I thought it was a red flag...

Can anyone tell me who uses those?

Its my money, I want a yellow one.

[wadeintothem]

Originally Posted by ronald

Gosh, sounds like I have been doing it wrong then. I say obstruction but I don't know if anyone has ever heard it.

If you say obstruction and no one hears you.. did you really say it?