Rookie Question

[NCASAUmp]

Originally Posted by Ed Maeder

No problem with the appeal. The only problem I see is that R1 was the plate umpires responsibility, you were responsible for R2.

You beat me to it.

Speaking ASA (and that can make a difference)...

PU always has tag-ups on a runner on 3B.
BU always has tag-ups on a runner on 1B.
If there's a lone runner on 2B, that's the BU's call, and he follows the runner to 3B if he attempts to advance (unless the ball wasn't caught).
If there are multiple runners, PU has the lead runner, and BU has everyone else.

I agree with everyone else here that the appeal was proper. In this sitch, I would've called time and informed the PU that F3 (I'm assuming you're referring to the first baseman) had asked if R1 left early.

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[IRISHMAFIA]

Originally Posted by NCASAUmp

You beat me to it.

Speaking ASA (and that can make a difference)...

PU always has tag-ups on a runner on 3B.
BU always has tag-ups on a runner on 1B.
If there's a lone runner on 2B, that's the BU's call, and he follows the runner to 3B if he attempts to advance (unless the ball wasn't caught).
If there are multiple runners, PU has the lead runner, and BU has everyone else.

I agree with everyone else here that the appeal was proper. In this sitch, I would've called time and informed the PU that F3 (I'm assuming you're referring to the first baseman) had asked if R1 left early.

Everything Ed and Dave stated is absolutely correct, especially for a rookie umpire and that should be taken into consideration.

However, I am not aware of a veteran who is looking through the runner (ball and play) for the touch who would not take that call. I'm not referring to a guess or maybe, but a blatant early jump.

[Tru_in_Blu]

D3 says to me, Blue did he leave early? I banged R1 for 3rd out, as he did leave early.

As mentioned in earlier posts, the runner at second base in this situation was the PU's responsibility. Had I been the base umpire, I would have required more clarity. "Did he leave early?" does not specifiy which runner the defense is appealing.

If they clarified that they were appealing the runner leaving from 2B, the proper mechanic would be to ask the PU for his ruling.

This exact scenario happened to me recently. Both runners were safe, but my BU poached the call on the runner from 2B. Between innings, he claimed that he thought they were appealing the runner from 1B. Regardless, he wasn't clear on what the defense was appealing and decided to just jump in everywhere. It got a bit annoying when he told me he's been "doing this for L years". I figured that after that long, he should have been able to get it right.

Ted

[Dakota]

Originally Posted by Tru_in_Blu

... he told me he's been "doing this for L years"...

What was he? A character from the Wizard of Id? He speaks in Roman Numerals?

[NCASAUmp]

Originally Posted by Dakota

What was he? A character from the Wizard of Id? He speaks in Roman Numerals?

Nah, I think he was just confused. His partner was speaking bad Spanish.