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[CajunNewBlue]

Originally Posted by topper

Please explain this to us. Who gets the warning, and what for?

fielder guilty of committing OBS gets a verbal....Umpire who made the call tells U1, who writes it down on back of lineup card.... and U1 notifies coach. or at least thats the way it was handled last night and thats how i understand it from the CCA.

wrong?

[Big Slick]

CNB, no warning on this play, the OBS did not happen while rounding or returning to a base.

[topper]

Originally Posted by CajunNewBlue

fielder guilty of committing OBS gets a verbal....Umpire who made the call tells U1, who writes it down on back of lineup card.... and U1 notifies coach. or at least thats the way it was handled last night and thats how i understand it from the CCA.

wrong?

Rounding or returning only.

Also, the penalty for a second infraction by the same fielder is a base award, not ejection.

[whiskers_ump]

Originally Posted by topper

Rounding or returning only.

Also, the penalty for a second infraction by the same fielder is a base award, not ejection.

topper, don't wake him, he is still dazed.

[wadeintothem]

While I agree there could be an expectation that a defender go *poof - I guess the hang up would be a time frame as applied to a fielder being considered in the act of fielding a batted ball.

Once the ball is past the defender on the muff - are they still protected at all and/or for how long?

This is not a deflected ball scenario - so just in general.

.5 second? no seconds? 1 second?

The fielders body is immediately in the postion after the muff in this case correct?

So since they were unsucessful in fielding the ball they are considered to not be in the act of fielding it?

I'm not so sure.. but interesting discussion.

[CajunNewBlue]

Originally Posted by wadeintothem

While I agree there could be an expectation that a defender go *poof - I guess the hang up would be a time frame as applied to a fielder being considered in the act of fielding a batted ball.

Once the ball is past the defender on the muff - are they still protected at all and/or for how long?

This is not a deflected ball scenario - so just in general.

.5 second? no seconds? 1 second?

The fielders body is immediately in the postion after the muff in this case correct?

So since they were unsucessful in fielding the ball they are considered to not be in the act of fielding it?

I'm not so sure.. but interesting discussion.

ok, if im robbing you (im in the act of) if ive already robbed you or at least tried and that event ended (its something different)
no? (probably because you've shot me )

[wadeintothem]

Originally Posted by CajunNewBlue

ok, if im robbing you (im in the act of) if ive already robbed you or at least tried and that event ended (its something different)
no? (probably because you've shot me )

If a defender dives for the ball and misses, landing on the ground and the runner has to jump over that defender - the call that is being adocated is OBS -

I have a no call on both cases. I still consider this type of issue as "act of fielding a batted ball"

[Dakota]

Problem is, wade, NFHS does not use the phrase "act of fielding a batted ball." They use the phrase "making the initial play on a batted ball" and they define what that phrase means:

Initial Play. A fielder is considered to be making an initial play on a fair batted ball when she:
a. Has a reasonable chance to gain control of a ground ball that no other fielder (except the pitcher) has touched.
b. Has a reasonable chance to catch the ball in flight after it touches another fielder.
c. Fails to gain control of the batted ball and is within a step and a reach (in any direction) of the spot of the initial contact.

[CajunNewBlue]

Originally Posted by topper

Rounding or returning only.

Also, the penalty for a second infraction by the same fielder is a base award, not ejection.

Yikes... i totally blew that one. ok, gonna have to do some "light reading" before my series this weekend. *&@@#$ dunno why i cross threaded that with the obstructing the batters line of vision.

Thanks for catching me on that.

but at least im not the one on the field that told me... ok thats one obs.. the next one gets her ejected and the third by any other fielder, they go and the coach goes too... TG we didnt have 3 obs last night. rofl.