FED question...

[Tru_in_Blu]

Thanx MGKBLUE. From the original post, I'm now even more inclined to rule OBS.

NFHS

10-2-c. When the defensive player uses the colored portion of the couble base, the BR can run in fair territory when the throw is coming from the foul side of first base, and if hit by the thrown ball, it is not interference. If intentional interference is ruled, the runner is out.

Ted

[CajunNewBlue]

no double bases... single base. (sorry, should have mentioned this in the op)

[AtlUmpSteve]

Let's also keep in mind that the running line violation is a form of interference; and that trumps the possible (OP stated did not slow down, didn't change direction, so how was she hindered??) obstruction by F3.

[CajunNewBlue]

Originally Posted by AtlUmpSteve

Let's also keep in mind that the running line violation is a form of interference; and that trumps the possible (OP stated did not slow down, didn't change direction, so how was she hindered??) obstruction by F3.

Agreed...but i could see this becoming a problem if the catcher is beaning the runners intentionally, because I dont see how this would be possible to detect. and if its not ruled on... then coaches are going to be teaching or might already be teaching this ummm.. maneuver.

[IRISHMAFIA]

Originally Posted by CajunNewBlue

no double bases... single base. (sorry, should have mentioned this in the op)

Ya' think?

Well, by rule, you may have made the correct call based on one thing. Did F3 have a chance of catching the throw to put out the BR or was it just a wild throw or, maybe, an intentional throw at the BR? I would like to think the latter would not happen, but nowadays, who knows.

It is quite possible that the BR's move to the inside was a direct reaction to how she has been taught to do it when playing on a travel ball team away from this league.

[CajunNewBlue]

Originally Posted by IRISHMAFIA

Ya' think?

Well, by rule, you may have made the correct call based on one thing. Did F3 have a chance of catching the throw to put out the BR or was it just a wild throw or, maybe, an intentional throw at the BR? I would like to think the latter would not happen, but nowadays, who knows.

It is quite possible that the BR's move to the inside was a direct reaction to how she has been taught to do it when playing on a travel ball team away from this league.

ohh it was the correct call... make no mistake!! j/k (she was 10' from the bag when pegged... im sure she woulda been hosed out had the INT not occurred ) but i just didnt like it and i thought maybe i needed to look for an exception. but couldnt find one.

[IRISHMAFIA]

Originally Posted by CajunNewBlue

(she was 10' from the bag when pegged... im sure she woulda been hosed out had the INT not occurred ) .

This is where I am getting confused. When OP stated the catcher was chasing the ball down on the first base side, I'm envisioning a throw coming from a point away from the baseline. This is why I asked if F3 would have caught the ball 10' up the line to put out the BR.

Apparently, since you said the BR would have definitely been put out, the throw came from a point closer to the baseline than I imagined.

Okay, thanks.

[CajunNewBlue]

yeah sorry bout that... my post writing ability is, ummm..still being worked on.

[CecilOne]

Originally Posted by Tru_in_Blu

Thanx MGKBLUE. From the original post, I'm now even more inclined to rule OBS.

NFHS
However, just about to point out "the defensive player uses the colored portion " in the rule, but now we know there was no colored portion.

Should I make that a new topic?
10-2-c. When the defensive player uses the colored portion of the couble base, the BR can run in fair territory when the throw is coming from the foul side of first base, and if hit by the thrown ball, it is not interference. If intentional interference is ruled, the runner is out.

Ted

However, just about to point out "the defensive player uses the colored portion " in the rule, but now we know there was no colored portion.

Should I make that a new topic?

[Tru_in_Blu]

Well, even without the double-base, I think F3 should be able to make a play by stepping on the foul side of the base. And, if the runner is running inside the line and gets hit with the throw, it's not INT.

Ted

[CajunNewBlue]

Originally Posted by Tru_in_Blu

Well, even without the double-base, I think F3 should be able to make a play by stepping on the foul side of the base. And, if the runner is running inside the line and gets hit with the throw, it's not INT.

Ted

hrmm.. i dont disagree... except the rule is clear "the runner is out if they interfere with the throw and either foot is outside the line(s)"
No reference to intent.. no nothing.