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Old Wed May 23, 2007, 11:14am
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Dead ball when stealing allowed - ASA slow pitch

Need help and I don't have my book.
When stealing is allowed in ASA slow pitch and the ball either hits the plate or lands in front of the plate, the umpire calls dead ball so the runners cannot advance. When does the ball become alive again? At what point can the runners try to steal again?
I know that if the ball is not dead on the pitch and the catcher's return throw to the pitcher that goes into center field, the runners can advance. But when the umpire calls dead ball and the catcher throws the return throw into center field, can the runners advance? Do they have to go back and tag the base they were on at the time of the dead ball?
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Old Wed May 23, 2007, 11:22am
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Haven't done any SP since the creation of the stealing rule, but normally the ball becomes live again when the umpire indicates it, which is usually when the pitcher is ready to pitch again. So, in your situation, I would say no, the ball is not live when the catcher throws the ball wildly away. I am sure some avid SP umpires will be along here shortly to correct me if I am wrong.
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Old Wed May 23, 2007, 11:57am
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Need help and I don't have my book.
When stealing is allowed in ASA slow pitch and the ball either hits the plate or lands in front of the plate, the umpire calls dead ball so the runners cannot advance. When does the ball become alive again? At what point can the runners try to steal again?
The next time a pitch reaches the front of the plate.

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I know that if the ball is not dead on the pitch and the catcher's return throw to the pitcher that goes into center field, the runners can advance. But when the umpire calls dead ball and the catcher throws the return throw into center field, can the runners advance?
If the ball is dead, it's dead. Runners cannot advance.

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Do they have to go back and tag the base they were on at the time of the dead ball?
Say what? Did I miss a fly ball somewhere?

It's pretty much the same as FP. Once the ball is returned to the pitcher in the vicinity of the PP (circle in FP), the runners cannot leave. The only difference is that in SP, you just tell the idiot, er....player to return to the base. In FP, it's a gotcha and a free out.
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