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Old Wed Jul 26, 2006, 12:33am
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were all heather grey here for travel ball stuff (JO and mens).. leagues some blue is worn. to me looks nice

ASA needs to authorize the tan shirts!

black for winter
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Old Wed Jul 26, 2006, 06:40am
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Not to mention lavender for spring and rust for fall.

Give me a break.

"Ooohh. The major leaguers wear this, that and the other. They look neat". Just an example of the number of sheeple in this country. If you want to be a MLB wannabe, go work baseball.

If you want to be an umpire, keep the uniform simple. What's the problem with being unique and having one uniform? It's not a fashion show out there, is it? And I'm not just talking about ASA. The guys that wear red, green, white or yellow shirts, the same goes for them. That's the uniform, why does someone always think that different is better?

Why is there a feeling that if the other guy does it, you have to do it? Sounds a bit like some people have an inferiority complex. IMO, if you need to keep up with the Jone's and it affects someone else, move to another neighborhood.
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Old Wed Jul 26, 2006, 08:26am
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Not to mention lavender for spring and rust for fall.

Give me a break.

"Ooohh. The major leaguers wear this, that and the other. They look neat". Just an example of the number of sheeple in this country. If you want to be a MLB wannabe, go work baseball.
Heaven forbid we want to look good instead of the tired old baby blue.



Any way, MLB wears light blue. We need choices though! I'm pro choice for Ump uniforms.

But no one said lavender (oddly except you hmmm), although it might be a good contrast for fall ball for ASA's light blue, so i'm suprised its not used...or Perhaps .. pink.

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Why is there a feeling that if the other guy does it, you have to do it? Sounds a bit like some people have an inferiority complex. IMO, if you need to keep up with the Jone's and it affects someone else, move to another neighborhood.
wtf you talkin bout willis?

The Tan looks sharp and cool (heat wise not "Cool ".) Its a good uniform.

I'll admit I just like the black cuz I like it. Its of little value.

You old timers are fading, and with it, your tenuous grasp on preventing us from looking good while umpiring slips.

You are right about the having to purchase many different shirts though.. its hard enough to make uniforms last 2-3 days or more during a big tourney with one color (in our area is grey/cute blue) and that would be much worse if we were allowed to look good but needed the ASA logo on them... no argument there.

AT LEAST, and I thank god for this, we can wear the heather grey.. the blue pants and baby blue shirt is the worst looking uniform there is. We need to go to a darker grey though, perhaps more like the MLB guys get to wear
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Old Wed Jul 26, 2006, 08:54am
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RANT ON

ASA Logos..

On EVERYTHING.

If there were ASA underwear, half this board and the umps I work with would run out and buy them.

ARe you kidding me?

Why must ASA Logo be on everything.

I had a UIC at a tourney ask me why I didnt have an ASA ball bag.

OK, My hat has ASA, my shirt has ASA... Im pretty sure everyone at the tourney grasps the fact that we are ASA..

But ASA makes us into their walking neon sign with their lame insistance on LOGOs on everything.

I made up for the fact I dont have a lame ASA ball bag by pulling out my ASA line up holder .

And guys, ASA socks are for slow pitch.
When a FP umpire is changing and I see they are wearing ASA socks.. I just shake my head. He needs a slap.

ASA underwear coming soon.. pre order your set today.. you know you want some, especially you mike.

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Old Thu Jul 27, 2006, 01:02pm
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RANT ON

ASA Logos..

On EVERYTHING.

If there were ASA underwear, half this board and the umps I work with would run out and buy them.

ARe you kidding me?

Why must ASA Logo be on everything.

I had a UIC at a tourney ask me why I didnt have an ASA ball bag.

OK, My hat has ASA, my shirt has ASA... Im pretty sure everyone at the tourney grasps the fact that we are ASA..

But ASA makes us into their walking neon sign with their lame insistance on LOGOs on everything.

I made up for the fact I dont have a lame ASA ball bag by pulling out my ASA line up holder .

And guys, ASA socks are for slow pitch.
When a FP umpire is changing and I see they are wearing ASA socks.. I just shake my head. He needs a slap.

ASA underwear coming soon.. pre order your set today.. you know you want some, especially you mike.

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The USSR/red ****s., the logo is on the cap, shirt and shorts. Heck, put ASA on your AS_. lol
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Old Wed Jul 26, 2006, 08:57am
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My thoughts, not that you care....

I like the powder over navy look. I think it looks really sharp.

That being said, I have no problem wearing the various other combinations. I like the Dark blue over gray, but really like the powder blue over gray. But I think the navy blue ball bags look really good with this combination.

I like the gray because they don't show the dirt as much as the navy blue pants. But the gray really look bad when I sweat (which is all the time). I did a game last year here in Indiana where it was a normal summer afternoon (92 degrees, 99 percent humidity) and by the end of the game my pants were wet down to my knees...disgusting I know.

For my national we are wearing gray pants and powder blue shirts. But I'm taking the others just in case.
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Old Wed Jul 26, 2006, 09:11am
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What is the definition of "uniform"?

All the choices only costs $$$ because have to buy them all so the umpiring crew is wearing the same uniform.

Do football, basketball, etc. referees get a choice of color?

This fashion-industry uniform racket only seems to apply to diamond sports.

It is bad enough I have to buy different shirts for the different associations, but to have to buy 2 or 3 different shirts for EACH one?? Makes me long for the Elbeco days (well, almost).

BTW, we are all heather gray here all the time... all associations, daylight and under the lights. Don't give anyone ideas, OK?
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Old Wed Jul 26, 2006, 09:32am
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Excellent post wade.

Minneapolis ASA wears powder blue and navy pants almost always. St. Paul allows either combination.

The other ASA organization here is powder blue and gray but they have their own shirt. The by a powder blue shirt with a left chest pocket and then put the organizations emblem on the right chest area. it looks incredibly stupid and unbalanced but that will soon end because ASA is dying here. AFA and USSSA are taking over in terms of numbers.

AFA wears gray/slate or gray/gray/ or black/gray.

Basketball officials have the choice of either traditional wear of the new grayish shirt (byt that shirt has not been apporved fully yet).

Baseball here has many choices. Football still wears the same traditional uniform.

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Old Wed Jul 26, 2006, 09:58am
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Other stuff...

When I do local leagues, often we mix and match, meaning for the first game we will wear powder blue/gray and the second powder blue/navy. Or we might wear powder blue/gray and then navy blue/gray.

I've worn red/navy as a solo crew before...looked really sharp!

Football? Some groups wear the traditional. Others choose to wear traditional for varsity games, White shorts for JV, Black shorts for Jr. High...but then again, they have short sleeve and long sleeve shirts, collared or no collar, etc. Some groups wear traditional socks, others black socks/white socks. Some wear specific association hats, etc.

You get my point.
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Old Wed Jul 26, 2006, 11:16am
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Looking fashionable/cute/sharp is meaningless.
Uniformity/cleanliness/neatness/professional is meaningful.
Imitating MLB is as useless as imitating NFL/NBA/MLS.

No reason for logos either, just a plain shirt and plain trousers and plain ball bag and plain cap and plain jacket and plain shoes in whatever color combo it would be. Just the same uniform for all sanctions, all leagues, all tournaments, etc.

The guiding principles should be enabling each umpire to have a full uniforms for whatever they work, multiples if needed, at the least practical cost.
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Old Wed Jul 26, 2006, 11:43am
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Opinions are like a$$holes; everyone has one, and believes everyone else's stink!! Well, here's mine.

In our area, ASA isn't remotely the only association, but it is considered the one with the best umpires. The teams expect a certain level of professionalism and expertise, and compare others to ASA as the level to be attained. In that light, we believe it is important that ASA umpires stand out with a standard (uniform) uniform. Our standard is the original ASA standard; powder blue with navy blue. Powder with gray is acceptable, but it so everyone else. We generally only use the dark blue top with gray on championship days, to give a special atmosphere to those games.

We don't want to be like "all the others". We want to be clearly distinguished by the uniform we wear; and it seems to work here. Powder and navy means ASA; and that is considered the best.
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