Misapplication of rule???

[Tru_in_Blu]

I'd think that the runner passing but not touching home is still at risk if the defense appeals.

So if the defense has a chance to get the runner out, it would only seem fair that the runner should have a chance to correct the base running error.

[bbman]

1 out Bases loaded.
B4 hits a shot to outfield for 2nd out runners tag up, play at third for 3rd out.

Coach ask "did run count" PU states the runner missed the plate as she passed it so no run.

I would like meet this PU. He is GOOD, REALLY GOOD!!!
First he calls catch/no catch, then he watches runner from third tag up(or not), then he watches to see if runner from third tags home, then he makes an out call at third base.
My hats off to him.

[Manny A]

Originally Posted by bbman

1 out Bases loaded.
B4 hits a shot to outfield for 2nd out runners tag up, play at third for 3rd out.

Coach ask "did run count" PU states the runner missed the plate as she passed it so no run.

I would like meet this PU. He is GOOD, REALLY GOOD!!!
First he calls catch/no catch, then he watches runner from third tag up(or not), then he watches to see if runner from third tags home, then he makes an out call at third base.
My hats off to him.

And those are all his/her responsibilities. The deviation would be if the throw from the outfield was initially heading home, which would require the PU to stay home for the play, and the BU would then take the play at third base on the cutoff throw from the infield.

[IRISHMAFIA]

Originally Posted by CecilOne

We know that, but please comment on this (real world) part of Manny's post.

"But I don't know how that's handled in NFHS or USA, where supposedly a runner can always correct a mistake until she enters DBT.

I also don't know if softball allows for continued base running to correct mistakes after the third out of the inning is recorded. So the fact that this runner passed but missed home on her way forward before the third out, but then returned and corrected her mistake after the third out is called, does that constitute a legal touch of the plate to avoid the fourth out appeal? Or can the defense still request a dead ball appeal to nullify the run?"

Under "dead ball appeal" in RS#1, it clearly states a runner must be given the opportunity to complete base running responsibilities. There is no quantifier as it pertains when this allowance ends.

Originally Posted by Tru_in_Blu

I'd think that the runner passing but not touching home is still at risk if the defense appeals.

So if the defense has a chance to get the runner out, it would only seem fair that the runner should have a chance to correct the base running error.

The defense also has the option of a live ball appeal since there is nothing I can find that suspends play upon execution of the 3rd out of an inning. That would also eliminate the allowance to the offense to safely continue their running responsibilities without jeopardy of being put out.