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Old Fri Aug 18, 2017, 11:23pm
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The effect of the rule is: The ball is dead, the batter-runner is out, and each base runner must return to the last base occupied at the time of the pitch.
Baseball has the same rule. But when an intervening play at HP happens they allow a safe at HP to stand even though an RLI happens afterwood. How does all of the SB codes address this? And how will the NCAA SB umpires address a BR straddling the lane while running to 1B?
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Old Sat Aug 19, 2017, 06:49am
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Baseball has the same rule. But when an intervening play at HP happens they allow a safe at HP to stand even though an RLI happens afterwood. How does all of the SB codes address this? And how will the NCAA SB umpires address a BR straddling the lane while running to 1B?
Forget "intervening play". Take it out of your softball vocabulary, doesn't exist.

If the 3rd out of the inning is the result of a runner being put out on a force or the BR failing to reach 1st safely, no run may score on that play.
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Old Mon Aug 21, 2017, 03:20pm
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F2 watches B/R round the bases after an over-the-fence HR, sees her miss the plate, and immediately appeals to the PU.
PU has to wait to see if BR is going realize her mistake (2, 3 steps later) before ruling?

The wording of the rationale actually seems to deny the defense the opportunity to appeal, instead of allowing it.
Couldn't a knowledgable OC use the rule ("sufficient time to advance or return") to have the appeal dissallowed?

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Old Mon Aug 21, 2017, 05:31pm
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F2 watches B/R round the bases after an over-the-fence HR, sees her miss the plate, and immediately appeals to the PU.
PU has to wait to see if BR is going realize her mistake (2, 3 steps later) before ruling?

The wording of the rationale actually seems to deny the defense the opportunity to appeal, instead of allowing it.
Couldn't a knowledgable OC use the rule ("sufficient time to advance or return") to have the appeal dissallowed?
The rule in every major ruleset of softball would be refuse to accept that appeal until the runners are given an opportunity to complete all running responsibility. In other words, since she can legally return and touch until she leaves live ball territory, no appeal should be considered until then.

This spells it out further, not really a rule change, after this play was handled incorrectly on a nationally broadcast game.
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